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Attributes | |
ACN | 187640 |
Time | |
Date | 199108 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msy |
State Reference | LA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1700 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : msy |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | approach : circling |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 105 flight time total : 7500 |
ASRS Report | 187640 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While descending into the new orleans area we were deviating around thunderstorms in the area. ATC had given us permission to do so at 3000 ft MSL. We were cleared for the VOR DME 18L approach via the 17 mi arc. At this point were well east of the field. I tuned in harvey VOR the inbound course and picked up the 17 DME arc. The 17 DME off harvey 167 degree radial is the FAF. The approach was made (with difficulty) and a circling landing 36L was accomplished with no problems except for the steep descent to the MDA. Upon reviewing the approach upon the advice of a controller, I discovered the DME arc was off msy VOR. I had turned inbound 6 mi prematurely. Extra care should have been taken when looking over the approach. I am not the first to make this mistake, and probably won't be the last. Attention should be brought to this abnormal procedure, or it should be changed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CORP ACFT FLC MISREADS VOR APCH. TUNES WRONG VOR.
Narrative: WHILE DSNDING INTO THE NEW ORLEANS AREA WE WERE DEVIATING AROUND TSTMS IN THE AREA. ATC HAD GIVEN US PERMISSION TO DO SO AT 3000 FT MSL. WE WERE CLRED FOR THE VOR DME 18L APCH VIA THE 17 MI ARC. AT THIS POINT WERE WELL E OF THE FIELD. I TUNED IN HARVEY VOR THE INBOUND COURSE AND PICKED UP THE 17 DME ARC. THE 17 DME OFF HARVEY 167 DEG RADIAL IS THE FAF. THE APCH WAS MADE (WITH DIFFICULTY) AND A CIRCLING LNDG 36L WAS ACCOMPLISHED WITH NO PROBLEMS EXCEPT FOR THE STEEP DSCNT TO THE MDA. UPON REVIEWING THE APCH UPON THE ADVICE OF A CTLR, I DISCOVERED THE DME ARC WAS OFF MSY VOR. I HAD TURNED INBOUND 6 MI PREMATURELY. EXTRA CARE SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN WHEN LOOKING OVER THE APCH. I AM NOT THE FIRST TO MAKE THIS MISTAKE, AND PROBABLY WON'T BE THE LAST. ATTN SHOULD BE BROUGHT TO THIS ABNORMAL PROC, OR IT SHOULD BE CHANGED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.