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Attributes | |
ACN | 188350 |
Time | |
Date | 199109 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute airway : zla |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 20 |
ASRS Report | 188350 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : unable |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 15000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
2 controllers allowed a non-FAA person to control busy traffic. The supervisor on duty had full knowledge. Sector got so busy they were providing 5 mi in trail to lax approach (7 mi required). Got busy enough they had to spin an air carrier, and when they finally got him into lax, approach said it was a system's error. Acting tower chief (lax) called the center chief and tapes were pulled and radar data was examined. It was determined there was no system error. The allowing of an ex- controller (retired) to control traffic during rush hour or any time is extremely dangerous. It creates a hazard for the unknowing flying public who put total confidence in the government to protect them.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CTLR COMPLAINT THAT A RETIRED CTLR WAS ALLOWED TO WORK A SECTOR DURING BUSY TFC AND INVOLVED IN A SYS ERROR.
Narrative: 2 CTLRS ALLOWED A NON-FAA PERSON TO CTL BUSY TFC. THE SUPVR ON DUTY HAD FULL KNOWLEDGE. SECTOR GOT SO BUSY THEY WERE PROVIDING 5 MI IN TRAIL TO LAX APCH (7 MI REQUIRED). GOT BUSY ENOUGH THEY HAD TO SPIN AN ACR, AND WHEN THEY FINALLY GOT HIM INTO LAX, APCH SAID IT WAS A SYSTEM'S ERROR. ACTING TWR CHIEF (LAX) CALLED THE CENTER CHIEF AND TAPES WERE PULLED AND RADAR DATA WAS EXAMINED. IT WAS DETERMINED THERE WAS NO SYS ERROR. THE ALLOWING OF AN EX- CTLR (RETIRED) TO CTL TFC DURING RUSH HR OR ANY TIME IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. IT CREATES A HAZARD FOR THE UNKNOWING FLYING PUBLIC WHO PUT TOTAL CONFIDENCE IN THE GOV TO PROTECT THEM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.