Flight crew of medium large transport takeoff with winds that exceeded their crosswind limits.

Attributes
ACN	188383
Time
Date	199108
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : bos
State Reference	MA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : dfw
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 5000
ASRS Report	188383
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 3500
ASRS Report	188127
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

We were #1 for takeoff holding short of 22R. An aircraft was holding on the runway. Bos tower said wind 330/19 gust 29 can you takeoff. Aircraft on runway said affirmative. Received a takeoff clearance and departed. Tower then asked us if we could takeoff. We said affirmative and they cleared us into position on 22R. Our crosswind under these circumstances was about 28 KTS and our manual limit is 25 KTS. I assumed that since wind varies considerably and was only 3 KTS over our limit that before I make a decision to taxi around the airport for another runway and disrupt the airport flow, lose my slot etc, I would wait for takeoff clearance and get wind at that moment then make my decision. Tower cleared us for takeoff without giving any additional wind information. Takeoff was normal, but the possibility exists that we exceeded our crosswind limit. Tower used improper procedure by not issuing wind with takeoff clearance.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLC OF MLG TKOF WITH WINDS THAT EXCEEDED THEIR XWIND LIMITS.

Narrative: WE WERE #1 FOR TKOF HOLDING SHORT OF 22R. AN ACFT WAS HOLDING ON THE RWY. BOS TWR SAID WIND 330/19 GUST 29 CAN YOU TKOF. ACFT ON RWY SAID AFFIRMATIVE. RECEIVED A TKOF CLRNC AND DEPARTED. TWR THEN ASKED US IF WE COULD TKOF. WE SAID AFFIRMATIVE AND THEY CLRED US INTO POS ON 22R. OUR XWIND UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES WAS ABOUT 28 KTS AND OUR MANUAL LIMIT IS 25 KTS. I ASSUMED THAT SINCE WIND VARIES CONSIDERABLY AND WAS ONLY 3 KTS OVER OUR LIMIT THAT BEFORE I MAKE A DECISION TO TAXI AROUND THE ARPT FOR ANOTHER RWY AND DISRUPT THE ARPT FLOW, LOSE MY SLOT ETC, I WOULD WAIT FOR TKOF CLRNC AND GET WIND AT THAT MOMENT THEN MAKE MY DECISION. TWR CLRED US FOR TKOF WITHOUT GIVING ANY ADDITIONAL WIND INFO. TKOF WAS NORMAL, BUT THE POSSIBILITY EXISTS THAT WE EXCEEDED OUR XWIND LIMIT. TWR USED IMPROPER PROC BY NOT ISSUING WIND WITH TKOF CLRNC.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.