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Attributes | |
ACN | 191795 |
Time | |
Date | 199110 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : eddk |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 33000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : eddk |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Heavy Transport, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff cruise other ground : preflight |
Route In Use | enroute : other oceanic enroute : atlantic |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | controller military : 20 controller non radar : 22 controller radar : 22 controller supervisory : 5 flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 6200 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 191795 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 8800 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 191832 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
On 10/wed/91, I was scheduled to fly a kewr direct eddk/eddk direct kewr trip by company scheduling. When initially informed of the trip, I told the scheduler I was not qualified over the north atlantic because my IOE training included pacific operations only. They called back and said a new FAA reading on that said fos, once qualified in any ocean, are qualified in both. I accepted the trip. The flight from kewr to eddk was via omega navigation. The flight from eddk to kewr was navigated by INS. I had attended company's long range navigation training, which includes both omega and INS courses, and thought I was fully qualified in both systems. Upon return to ksdf (louisville) I was informed that I was not INS qualified since I had not received an INS aircraft chkride, and that I was illegal to fly the INS leg of the trip. At no time, either before or during the trip did I have any inkling that I was not INS qualified. Corrective actions: incorporate into long range navigation training an explanation of exactly what is necessary to be omega/INS qualified. Include, in detail, the annual chkride and initial chkride requirements for all crew positions in the company's flight operations manual, to include insecond officermega qualifications. Supplemental information from acn 191832. Company's scheduling error in assigning first officer this trip, and my assumption, as captain, that first officer had been INS checked. Better communication on my part to ensure that first officer's are properly checked. Company's scheduling department will keep better records.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: VIOLATION OF FARS IN OP OF ACFT NAV EQUIP IN EXTENDED OVER WATER OP WITHOUT A QUALIFICATION CHK RIDE.
Narrative: ON 10/WED/91, I WAS SCHEDULED TO FLY A KEWR DIRECT EDDK/EDDK DIRECT KEWR TRIP BY COMPANY SCHEDULING. WHEN INITIALLY INFORMED OF THE TRIP, I TOLD THE SCHEDULER I WAS NOT QUALIFIED OVER THE N ATLANTIC BECAUSE MY IOE TRAINING INCLUDED PACIFIC OPS ONLY. THEY CALLED BACK AND SAID A NEW FAA READING ON THAT SAID FOS, ONCE QUALIFIED IN ANY OCEAN, ARE QUALIFIED IN BOTH. I ACCEPTED THE TRIP. THE FLT FROM KEWR TO EDDK WAS VIA OMEGA NAV. THE FLT FROM EDDK TO KEWR WAS NAVIGATED BY INS. I HAD ATTENDED COMPANY'S LONG RANGE NAV TRAINING, WHICH INCLUDES BOTH OMEGA AND INS COURSES, AND THOUGHT I WAS FULLY QUALIFIED IN BOTH SYSTEMS. UPON RETURN TO KSDF (LOUISVILLE) I WAS INFORMED THAT I WAS NOT INS QUALIFIED SINCE I HAD NOT RECEIVED AN INS ACFT CHKRIDE, AND THAT I WAS ILLEGAL TO FLY THE INS LEG OF THE TRIP. AT NO TIME, EITHER BEFORE OR DURING THE TRIP DID I HAVE ANY INKLING THAT I WAS NOT INS QUALIFIED. CORRECTIVE ACTIONS: INCORPORATE INTO LONG RANGE NAV TRAINING AN EXPLANATION OF EXACTLY WHAT IS NECESSARY TO BE OMEGA/INS QUALIFIED. INCLUDE, IN DETAIL, THE ANNUAL CHKRIDE AND INITIAL CHKRIDE REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL CREW POSITIONS IN THE COMPANY'S FLT OPS MANUAL, TO INCLUDE INS/OMEGA QUALIFICATIONS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 191832. COMPANY'S SCHEDULING ERROR IN ASSIGNING FO THIS TRIP, AND MY ASSUMPTION, AS CAPT, THAT FO HAD BEEN INS CHKED. BETTER COM ON MY PART TO ENSURE THAT FO'S ARE PROPERLY CHKED. COMPANY'S SCHEDULING DEPT WILL KEEP BETTER RECORDS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.