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Attributes | |
ACN | 192025 |
Time | |
Date | 199110 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : l66 |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : initial ground : holding |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : initial ground : holding |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 1270 |
ASRS Report | 192025 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Were waiting for takeoff at runway 25 in corona. Ahead of me is some kind of experimental. Behind me were also some aircraft waiting for takeoff. There came an opening for takeoff but the aircraft ahead of me did not go. I tried to go instead (that is, I started to move slightly forward) and on the radio an small aircraft behind me said, 'yeah, go for it. Get out of this guy's way'. But the aircraft ahead of me did not move so I could not go. After a couple of airplanes passed another chance came up. This time the experimental started to roll. I looked at the aircraft now about to turn final and I decided to follow the experimental. I taxied into position and hold and as soon as the experimental was about 1/4 down the runway I told my student to go ahead and start his takeoff (he was under the hood because we were going to practice an instrument takeoff). This was because I didn't want to cause the aircraft behind me to have to go around. I was flying an small aircraft. Apparently I had misjudged the speed of the experimental because we started rapidly to overtake the experimental. I thought about reducing power and stopping to taxi back but I was already a little way down the runway and the thing that popped into my mind was what if the small aircraft on final has landed and is rolling now (I have seen that before on previous occasions) he will not expect me to stop so he would just roll into the back of me. So I decided to continue the takeoff and overtake the experimental in the air. So as soon as I was off the ground (I had taken over the controls from the student) I started to pass the experimental to the right. As soon as I was slightly ahead of the experimental, the aircraft that had been on final passed me in his go around pass. (In which, by the way, he didn't really climb because it was a similar type small aircraft and he passed me with considerable ease while I was going about 70-75 KTS.) that was, by the way, the first I had seen from that aircraft since he made his base to final turn. As this went on I heard some comments on the radio about what a dumb thing I was doing. I agreed but thought I was handling in the best interests of safety. I have learned that from now on I will wait until the aircraft is definitely climbing before I will even add the power for takeoff.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ERRATIC PLT BEHAVIOR UNPROFESSIONAL ATTITUDE AT NON TWR ARPT UNICOM CREATES A POTENTIAL CONFLICT BTWN ARR DEP ACFT.
Narrative: WERE WAITING FOR TKOF AT RWY 25 IN CORONA. AHEAD OF ME IS SOME KIND OF EXPERIMENTAL. BEHIND ME WERE ALSO SOME ACFT WAITING FOR TKOF. THERE CAME AN OPENING FOR TKOF BUT THE ACFT AHEAD OF ME DID NOT GO. I TRIED TO GO INSTEAD (THAT IS, I STARTED TO MOVE SLIGHTLY FORWARD) AND ON THE RADIO AN SMA BEHIND ME SAID, 'YEAH, GO FOR IT. GET OUT OF THIS GUY'S WAY'. BUT THE ACFT AHEAD OF ME DID NOT MOVE SO I COULD NOT GO. AFTER A COUPLE OF AIRPLANES PASSED ANOTHER CHANCE CAME UP. THIS TIME THE EXPERIMENTAL STARTED TO ROLL. I LOOKED AT THE ACFT NOW ABOUT TO TURN FINAL AND I DECIDED TO FOLLOW THE EXPERIMENTAL. I TAXIED INTO POS AND HOLD AND AS SOON AS THE EXPERIMENTAL WAS ABOUT 1/4 DOWN THE RWY I TOLD MY STUDENT TO GO AHEAD AND START HIS TKOF (HE WAS UNDER THE HOOD BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO PRACTICE AN INST TKOF). THIS WAS BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO CAUSE THE ACFT BEHIND ME TO HAVE TO GAR. I WAS FLYING AN SMA. APPARENTLY I HAD MISJUDGED THE SPD OF THE EXPERIMENTAL BECAUSE WE STARTED RAPIDLY TO OVERTAKE THE EXPERIMENTAL. I THOUGHT ABOUT REDUCING PWR AND STOPPING TO TAXI BACK BUT I WAS ALREADY A LITTLE WAY DOWN THE RWY AND THE THING THAT POPPED INTO MY MIND WAS WHAT IF THE SMA ON FINAL HAS LANDED AND IS ROLLING NOW (I HAVE SEEN THAT BEFORE ON PREVIOUS OCCASIONS) HE WILL NOT EXPECT ME TO STOP SO HE WOULD JUST ROLL INTO THE BACK OF ME. SO I DECIDED TO CONTINUE THE TKOF AND OVERTAKE THE EXPERIMENTAL IN THE AIR. SO AS SOON AS I WAS OFF THE GND (I HAD TAKEN OVER THE CTLS FROM THE STUDENT) I STARTED TO PASS THE EXPERIMENTAL TO THE R. AS SOON AS I WAS SLIGHTLY AHEAD OF THE EXPERIMENTAL, THE ACFT THAT HAD BEEN ON FINAL PASSED ME IN HIS GAR PASS. (IN WHICH, BY THE WAY, HE DIDN'T REALLY CLB BECAUSE IT WAS A SIMILAR TYPE SMA AND HE PASSED ME WITH CONSIDERABLE EASE WHILE I WAS GOING ABOUT 70-75 KTS.) THAT WAS, BY THE WAY, THE FIRST I HAD SEEN FROM THAT ACFT SINCE HE MADE HIS BASE TO FINAL TURN. AS THIS WENT ON I HEARD SOME COMMENTS ON THE RADIO ABOUT WHAT A DUMB THING I WAS DOING. I AGREED BUT THOUGHT I WAS HANDLING IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF SAFETY. I HAVE LEARNED THAT FROM NOW ON I WILL WAIT UNTIL THE ACFT IS DEFINITELY CLBING BEFORE I WILL EVEN ADD THE PWR FOR TKOF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.