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Attributes | |
ACN | 193580 |
Time | |
Date | 199111 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : abe |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : abe |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 25 |
ASRS Report | 193580 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : exited adverse environment none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were arriving into abe. The captain had never been there before. We had been cleared to and were about to level off at 3000 ft MSL when the GPWS went off stating 'terrain'. The captain immediately climbed to 3700 ft MSL and the GPWS warning stopped. We asked the controller what the MVA was and he stated 2800 ft MSL. We then informed him that the GPWS went off and that was the reason for our deviation. The controller then said 'it happens all the time, no problem'! This problem can be eliminated by clearing aircraft to 3500 ft initially then lower as necessary. The warning was caused by a steeply rising ridge and approach should not have such a laissez faire procedure in their airspace.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG ACR FLT HAD GPWS AT 3000 MSL ON INST APCH TO ABE.
Narrative: WE WERE ARRIVING INTO ABE. THE CAPT HAD NEVER BEEN THERE BEFORE. WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO AND WERE ABOUT TO LEVEL OFF AT 3000 FT MSL WHEN THE GPWS WENT OFF STATING 'TERRAIN'. THE CAPT IMMEDIATELY CLBED TO 3700 FT MSL AND THE GPWS WARNING STOPPED. WE ASKED THE CTLR WHAT THE MVA WAS AND HE STATED 2800 FT MSL. WE THEN INFORMED HIM THAT THE GPWS WENT OFF AND THAT WAS THE REASON FOR OUR DEV. THE CTLR THEN SAID 'IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME, NO PROBLEM'! THIS PROBLEM CAN BE ELIMINATED BY CLRING ACFT TO 3500 FT INITIALLY THEN LOWER AS NECESSARY. THE WARNING WAS CAUSED BY A STEEPLY RISING RIDGE AND APCH SHOULD NOT HAVE SUCH A LAISSEZ FAIRE PROC IN THEIR AIRSPACE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.