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Attributes | |
ACN | 196642 |
Time | |
Date | 199112 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mxe airport : bwi |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 18000 msl bound upper : 18000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 180 |
ASRS Report | 196642 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
En route pod-bwi with ZNY approaching mxe. Controller was very busy. It took us a couple mins to even 'check in' and then it took 2 calls -- no acknowledgement until another min or 2 and then ATC stated 'ok, now I have some time, who called.' from there, the controller was so hurried, that he frequently did not use the company name with the numbers, i.e., was just flight number. He talked so fast that we frequently were unsure if he was calling us. One time, he gave us a descent (no company name with the numbers) from FL180 to 16000. No altimeter setting was offered. Generally speaking, the ATC heavy workload combined with not using proper call sign phraseology made the flight much more difficult and could have led to a conflict.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FO RPTING PROTESTS RAPID SPEECH OF ZNY CTLR.
Narrative: ENRTE POD-BWI WITH ZNY APCHING MXE. CTLR WAS VERY BUSY. IT TOOK US A COUPLE MINS TO EVEN 'CHK IN' AND THEN IT TOOK 2 CALLS -- NO ACKNOWLEDGEMENT UNTIL ANOTHER MIN OR 2 AND THEN ATC STATED 'OK, NOW I HAVE SOME TIME, WHO CALLED.' FROM THERE, THE CTLR WAS SO HURRIED, THAT HE FREQUENTLY DID NOT USE THE COMPANY NAME WITH THE NUMBERS, I.E., WAS JUST FLT NUMBER. HE TALKED SO FAST THAT WE FREQUENTLY WERE UNSURE IF HE WAS CALLING US. ONE TIME, HE GAVE US A DSCNT (NO COMPANY NAME WITH THE NUMBERS) FROM FL180 TO 16000. NO ALTIMETER SETTING WAS OFFERED. GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE ATC HVY WORKLOAD COMBINED WITH NOT USING PROPER CALL SIGN PHRASEOLOGY MADE THE FLT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT AND COULD HAVE LED TO A CONFLICT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.