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Flight crew of large transport reviewing NOTAMS issued by company as information. Flight crew questioned approach controller reference changes and were advised the NOTAM was not in effect.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 196662 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199112 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dsm |
| State Reference | IA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : dsm |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
| Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 145 flight time total : 8700 flight time type : 1400 |
| ASRS Report | 196662 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| Publication | Unspecified |
Narrative:
Our company issues the rdc NOTAMS for our departure, destination and alternate airports via a computer printout. During vectoring for the ILS the crew reviewed the company issued fdc NOTAMS for the ILS. The NOTAMS called for a significant change in missed approach procedures. Upon questioning ATC about the changes, we were advised that the fdc NOTAM was not in effect and the published missed approach procedure was current on the approach plate. Had we not questioned ATC and executed the fdc NOTAM procedure, an incorrect turn and NAVAID use would have occurred. A potential safety hazard and violation were imminent. After the flight, further discussion with ATC, the local FSDO and our company flight operations, it was revealed that our issued NOTAMS were not revised. It was suggested that a review of our company procedures on issuing NOTAMS to flcs be corrected.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF LGT REVIEWING NOTAMS ISSUED BY COMPANY AS INFO. FLC QUESTIONED APCH CTLR REF CHANGES AND WERE ADVISED THE NOTAM WAS NOT IN EFFECT.
Narrative: OUR COMPANY ISSUES THE RDC NOTAMS FOR OUR DEP, DEST AND ALTERNATE ARPTS VIA A COMPUTER PRINTOUT. DURING VECTORING FOR THE ILS THE CREW REVIEWED THE COMPANY ISSUED FDC NOTAMS FOR THE ILS. THE NOTAMS CALLED FOR A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN MISSED APCH PROCS. UPON QUESTIONING ATC ABOUT THE CHANGES, WE WERE ADVISED THAT THE FDC NOTAM WAS NOT IN EFFECT AND THE PUBLISHED MISSED APCH PROC WAS CURRENT ON THE APCH PLATE. HAD WE NOT QUESTIONED ATC AND EXECUTED THE FDC NOTAM PROC, AN INCORRECT TURN AND NAVAID USE WOULD HAVE OCCURRED. A POTENTIAL SAFETY HAZARD AND VIOLATION WERE IMMINENT. AFTER THE FLT, FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH ATC, THE LCL FSDO AND OUR COMPANY FLT OPS, IT WAS REVEALED THAT OUR ISSUED NOTAMS WERE NOT REVISED. IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT A REVIEW OF OUR COMPANY PROCS ON ISSUING NOTAMS TO FLCS BE CORRECTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.