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Attributes | |
ACN | 200014 |
Time | |
Date | 199112 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dqo |
State Reference | MD |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 25500 msl bound upper : 26000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc tower : tlh |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 155 flight time total : 16000 |
ASRS Report | 200014 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 16000 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation Operational Error |
Narrative:
After coming on to busy east coast frequency, we copied: xx cross holey at 11000 philly altimeter 2980. As captain/check airman I read back the clearance and in full using xx simultaneously resetting altitude on FD panel. I went to FMC to set VNAV crossing holey (?) not in FMC. I checked approach chart no holey (?) something wrong. Meantime first officer had initiated an idle descent (3500 FPM). A TA...I acknowledged. TCASII oncoming traffic. Something is wrong. I took aircraft from student first officer. 'I've got it.' while trying to call center I took autoplt off, autothrottles off, and started leveling aircraft. Power up and climbing back to altitude. More communications from center. We were only hearing call sign numbers, not company identify. YYY called to confirm their clearance. Now the problem was solved. I had read back the clearance intended for YYY. Why didn't someone tell me we had 2 aircraft on frequency with same call sign. Why didn't controller repeat call sign of company? I complained to controller. More communication problems. ZZZ complained. Controller was replaced. After discussing with my supervisor I called TCASII representative and company manager for ATC communication and manager handling industry wide similar call signs. I have since found out from transcripts that aircraft deviation of 2.75 NM and 400 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF LGT TOOK CLRNC MEANT FOR ANOTHER ACFT. DSNDING, HAD TCASII TA.
Narrative: AFTER COMING ON TO BUSY E COAST FREQ, WE COPIED: XX CROSS HOLEY AT 11000 PHILLY ALTIMETER 2980. AS CAPT/CHK AIRMAN I READ BACK THE CLRNC AND IN FULL USING XX SIMULTANEOUSLY RESETTING ALT ON FD PANEL. I WENT TO FMC TO SET VNAV XING HOLEY (?) NOT IN FMC. I CHKED APCH CHART NO HOLEY (?) SOMETHING WRONG. MEANTIME FO HAD INITIATED AN IDLE DSCNT (3500 FPM). A TA...I ACKNOWLEDGED. TCASII ONCOMING TFC. SOMETHING IS WRONG. I TOOK ACFT FROM STUDENT FO. 'I'VE GOT IT.' WHILE TRYING TO CALL CENTER I TOOK AUTOPLT OFF, AUTOTHROTTLES OFF, AND STARTED LEVELING ACFT. PWR UP AND CLBING BACK TO ALT. MORE COMS FROM CENTER. WE WERE ONLY HEARING CALL SIGN NUMBERS, NOT COMPANY IDENT. YYY CALLED TO CONFIRM THEIR CLRNC. NOW THE PROBLEM WAS SOLVED. I HAD READ BACK THE CLRNC INTENDED FOR YYY. WHY DIDN'T SOMEONE TELL ME WE HAD 2 ACFT ON FREQ WITH SAME CALL SIGN. WHY DIDN'T CTLR REPEAT CALL SIGN OF COMPANY? I COMPLAINED TO CTLR. MORE COM PROBLEMS. ZZZ COMPLAINED. CTLR WAS REPLACED. AFTER DISCUSSING WITH MY SUPVR I CALLED TCASII REPRESENTATIVE AND COMPANY MGR FOR ATC COM AND MGR HANDLING INDUSTRY WIDE SIMILAR CALL SIGNS. I HAVE SINCE FOUND OUT FROM TRANSCRIPTS THAT ACFT DEV OF 2.75 NM AND 400 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.