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Attributes | |
ACN | 200335 |
Time | |
Date | 199201 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : syr |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sdf |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 200335 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Prior to taxiing out from the gate in syracuse, the ATIS was reporting west 5 X 1/2 southwest bs patches of snow on runway 28. As we taxied out, ground advised us that the RVR had dropped to 1600 RVR in blowing snow. Since that was below landing mins, I requested and got a takeoff alternate from dispatch. When we were cleared onto runway 28, tower said that visibility was now 1000 ft and asked if we were legal for takeoff. I checked the terminal page which showed that takeoff on runway 28 was permitted down to RVR of 600, 600, 600. I concluded that we were legal and departed. After the fact, I had second thoughts. Parts of the runway had patches of snow and drifting snow. So did I have runway centerline lighting and markings which are required to use 600 RVR? I felt that I had adequate forward visibility through out the takeoff roll, but now I'm not sure that I met the criteria for using 600 RVR.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR DEPARTING WITH MIN RVR QUESTIONS IF LEGAL.
Narrative: PRIOR TO TAXIING OUT FROM THE GATE IN SYRACUSE, THE ATIS WAS RPTING W 5 X 1/2 SW BS PATCHES OF SNOW ON RWY 28. AS WE TAXIED OUT, GND ADVISED US THAT THE RVR HAD DROPPED TO 1600 RVR IN BLOWING SNOW. SINCE THAT WAS BELOW LNDG MINS, I REQUESTED AND GOT A TKOF ALTERNATE FROM DISPATCH. WHEN WE WERE CLRED ONTO RWY 28, TWR SAID THAT VISIBILITY WAS NOW 1000 FT AND ASKED IF WE WERE LEGAL FOR TKOF. I CHKED THE TERMINAL PAGE WHICH SHOWED THAT TKOF ON RWY 28 WAS PERMITTED DOWN TO RVR OF 600, 600, 600. I CONCLUDED THAT WE WERE LEGAL AND DEPARTED. AFTER THE FACT, I HAD SECOND THOUGHTS. PARTS OF THE RWY HAD PATCHES OF SNOW AND DRIFTING SNOW. SO DID I HAVE RWY CTRLINE LIGHTING AND MARKINGS WHICH ARE REQUIRED TO USE 600 RVR? I FELT THAT I HAD ADEQUATE FORWARD VISIBILITY THROUGH OUT THE TKOF ROLL, BUT NOW I'M NOT SURE THAT I MET THE CRITERIA FOR USING 600 RVR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.