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Attributes | |
ACN | 201637 |
Time | |
Date | 199202 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pdx |
State Reference | OR |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 500 agl bound upper : 1200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pdx |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 201637 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 201998 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Climbing through 1200 ft we had a TCASII RA and a command to descend at maximum rate (1500-2000 FPM). At 500 ft AGL we leveled off with TCASII still saying to descend at maximum rate. With high terrain approaching we started a maximum rate climb. (TCASII still saying descend maximum rate). TCASII showed a TA without an altitude ahead of us and a RA plus 200 ft behind us. Note: had we followed the TCASII directions we would have definitely crashed. If the WX had been IFR I feel we would have crashed following the TCASII directions. At one point we had TCASII saying descend maximum rate and the GPWS saying 'pull-up, pull-up.' ATC said he showed no traffic conflict at any time. Supplemental information from acn 201998. 'TCASII fail' displayed on CRT approximately 5 mins after takeoff. 'TCASII fail' should have been displayed sooner. 'RA' traffic at time of warning later ascertained to be 7 O'clock.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV ALT EXCURSION DURING EVASIVE ACTION DIVE DSCNT IN CONJUNCTION WITH TCASII RA. GPWS WARNING PREVENTED ACFT FROM IMPACTING RISING TERRAIN.
Narrative: CLBING THROUGH 1200 FT WE HAD A TCASII RA AND A COMMAND TO DSND AT MAX RATE (1500-2000 FPM). AT 500 FT AGL WE LEVELED OFF WITH TCASII STILL SAYING TO DSND AT MAX RATE. WITH HIGH TERRAIN APCHING WE STARTED A MAX RATE CLB. (TCASII STILL SAYING DSND MAX RATE). TCASII SHOWED A TA WITHOUT AN ALT AHEAD OF US AND A RA PLUS 200 FT BEHIND US. NOTE: HAD WE FOLLOWED THE TCASII DIRECTIONS WE WOULD HAVE DEFINITELY CRASHED. IF THE WX HAD BEEN IFR I FEEL WE WOULD HAVE CRASHED FOLLOWING THE TCASII DIRECTIONS. AT ONE POINT WE HAD TCASII SAYING DSND MAX RATE AND THE GPWS SAYING 'PULL-UP, PULL-UP.' ATC SAID HE SHOWED NO TFC CONFLICT AT ANY TIME. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 201998. 'TCASII FAIL' DISPLAYED ON CRT APPROX 5 MINS AFTER TKOF. 'TCASII FAIL' SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISPLAYED SOONER. 'RA' TFC AT TIME OF WARNING LATER ASCERTAINED TO BE 7 O'CLOCK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.