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Attributes | |
ACN | 202728 |
Time | |
Date | 199202 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 500 agl bound upper : 500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax tower : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Route In Use | approach : straight in approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Route In Use | approach : visual approach : straight in |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 202728 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Air carrier X on downwind from smo VOR we were cleared for a visual approach to runway 24R at lax. Our traffic was foreign air carrier Y widebody transport, side stepping to land on runway 24L. With the traffic in sight I executed my approach to be abeam and slightly higher than the widebody transport to avoid his wake turbulence. As I prepared to land the widebody transport was not visible on my left because a first officer cannot see out the left side of the aircraft. Apparently the widebody transport did not execute a proper side step and was close aboard. I could not see the situation developing on the left side of the aircraft. The widebody transport executed a missed approach. Supplemental information from acn 202744: we were holding short of runway 24L, for departure and on tower frequency, the captain, and myself observed our company air carrier X over the threshold of runway 24R at approximately 150 to 200 ft AGL in landing confign and about to flare with a foreign widebody transport approximately 100-150 ft above and 200-300 ft behind min at a greater speed. A collision looked about to happen! The tower controller was in what seemed a normal voice was asking the widebody transport if he had runway 24L in sight visually for landing. The response was what seemed as a very strained person in either broken english or fracture speech. The widebody transport at this point (air carrier X 100 +\- AGL 200 to 300 down the runway and the widebody transport 100 ft above (directly) the air carrier X) appeared to be rotating up while retracting the gear in a go around - the tower controller stated 'air carrier Y are you going around?' at this point the separation increased and the conflict ended - all I can add at this time is that from what I observed - the widebody transport was obviously 'screwed up' but in the end saved a 'mid-air' by the go around - and that from the short duration of tower conversation we heard. The controller was doing 'nothing' to prevent the near miss.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LAX MULTIPLE RWY OP PARALLEL RWYS VISUAL APCH. FOREIGN ACR Y, WDB, NON ADHERENCE TO ATC CLRNC (APCH TO WRONG RWY) HAD NMAC WITH ACR X. PLTDEV. SEE AND AVOID CONCEPT.
Narrative: ACR X ON DOWNWIND FROM SMO VOR WE WERE CLRED FOR A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 24R AT LAX. OUR TFC WAS FOREIGN ACR Y WDB, SIDE STEPPING TO LAND ON RWY 24L. WITH THE TFC IN SIGHT I EXECUTED MY APCH TO BE ABEAM AND SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THE WDB TO AVOID HIS WAKE TURB. AS I PREPARED TO LAND THE WDB WAS NOT VISIBLE ON MY L BECAUSE A FO CANNOT SEE OUT THE L SIDE OF THE ACFT. APPARENTLY THE WDB DID NOT EXECUTE A PROPER SIDE STEP AND WAS CLOSE ABOARD. I COULD NOT SEE THE SITUATION DEVELOPING ON THE L SIDE OF THE ACFT. THE WDB EXECUTED A MISSED APCH. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 202744: WE WERE HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 24L, FOR DEP AND ON TWR FREQ, THE CAPT, AND MYSELF OBSERVED OUR COMPANY ACR X OVER THE THRESHOLD OF RWY 24R AT APPROX 150 TO 200 FT AGL IN LNDG CONFIGN AND ABOUT TO FLARE WITH A FOREIGN WDB APPROX 100-150 FT ABOVE AND 200-300 FT BEHIND MIN AT A GREATER SPD. A COLLISION LOOKED ABOUT TO HAPPEN! THE TWR CTLR WAS IN WHAT SEEMED A NORMAL VOICE WAS ASKING THE WDB IF HE HAD RWY 24L IN SIGHT VISUALLY FOR LNDG. THE RESPONSE WAS WHAT SEEMED AS A VERY STRAINED PERSON IN EITHER BROKEN ENGLISH OR FRACTURE SPEECH. THE WDB AT THIS POINT (ACR X 100 +\- AGL 200 TO 300 DOWN THE RWY AND THE WDB 100 FT ABOVE (DIRECTLY) THE ACR X) APPEARED TO BE ROTATING UP WHILE RETRACTING THE GEAR IN A GAR - THE TWR CTLR STATED 'ACR Y ARE YOU GOING AROUND?' AT THIS POINT THE SEPARATION INCREASED AND THE CONFLICT ENDED - ALL I CAN ADD AT THIS TIME IS THAT FROM WHAT I OBSERVED - THE WDB WAS OBVIOUSLY 'SCREWED UP' BUT IN THE END SAVED A 'MID-AIR' BY THE GAR - AND THAT FROM THE SHORT DURATION OF TWR CONVERSATION WE HEARD. THE CTLR WAS DOING 'NOTHING' TO PREVENT THE NEAR MISS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.