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Air ambiguity arrives at destination to find no ceiling information on AWOS.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 204306 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199203 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : asg |
| State Reference | AR |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 16000 msl bound upper : 16000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : fyv |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 53 flight time total : 2087 flight time type : 113 |
| ASRS Report | 204306 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | other personnel other |
| Qualification | other |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified cockpit |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| Navigational Aid | Unspecified |
Narrative:
135 operation on IFR flight plan in IMC. High intensity approach lighting NOTAM out of service at asg. Only NOTAM for asg being briefly. Upon arrival AWOS III reporting everything except ceiling. No other weather reporting available at asg. Made approach, broke out at 1000 AGL and AWOS reporting 5 mi visibility. Forecast for fyv was 4000 broken and 7 mi. As in 135 operation we need to know if a weather reporting system is working properly or not when we receive our briefings. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter states when receiving briefing not a word was mentioned about ceiling information being unavailable. Since this is a required part 135 operation, pilot should have been informed of missing information. Closing of FSS has made AWOS a real life saver for part 135 operation. But there must be some way for FSS to notify if some information missing/inoperative. Pilots need reliability of receiving this information through FSS. He was hearing AWOS very well, but did not have information he needed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AIR AMB ARRIVES AT DEST TO FIND NO CEILING INFO ON AWOS.
Narrative: 135 OP ON IFR FLT PLAN IN IMC. HIGH INTENSITY APCH LIGHTING NOTAM OUT OF SVC AT ASG. ONLY NOTAM FOR ASG BEING BRIEFLY. UPON ARR AWOS III REPORTING EVERYTHING EXCEPT CEILING. NO OTHER WEATHER REPORTING AVAILABLE AT ASG. MADE APCH, BROKE OUT AT 1000 AGL AND AWOS REPORTING 5 MI VISIBILITY. FORECAST FOR FYV WAS 4000 BROKEN AND 7 MI. AS IN 135 OP WE NEED TO KNOW IF A WEATHER REPORTING SYS IS WORKING PROPERLY OR NOT WHEN WE RECEIVE OUR BRIEFINGS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATES WHEN RECEIVING BRIEFING NOT A WORD WAS MENTIONED ABOUT CEILING INFO BEING UNAVAILABLE. SINCE THIS IS A REQUIRED PART 135 OP, PLT SHOULD HAVE BEEN INFORMED OF MISSING INFO. CLOSING OF FSS HAS MADE AWOS A REAL LIFE SAVER FOR PART 135 OP. BUT THERE MUST BE SOME WAY FOR FSS TO NOTIFY IF SOME INFO MISSING/INOP. PLTS NEED RELIABILITY OF RECEIVING THIS INFO THROUGH FSS. HE WAS HEARING AWOS VERY WELL, BUT DID NOT HAVE INFO HE NEEDED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.