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Attributes | |
ACN | 205745 |
Time | |
Date | 199203 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pit airport : cak |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2700 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pit tower : apc |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 15 flight time total : 700 flight time type : 350 |
ASRS Report | 205745 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified cockpit |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Departed hlg into forecast moderate/local severe ice icip with PIREPS of light rime/mixed. Entered light rime at 3500 continued at 4000 and became moderate rime. Requested 2000 and got it, but ice continued. After pit approach handed us off to cak approach received report of moderate mixed from 2000-4000 at cak (near our destination of 1g3). Requested and received return to hlg. Aircraft had approximately 1 inch ice on wing and tail; required 25/25 power for level flight. During turn onto approach (ILS 3 at hlg)descended to 2700 (possible altitude violation -- we were cleared for 3000). I was concerned about too aggressive use of controls as airspeed was only 100 KTS. Landed at hlg; ice came off at 2500 on the approach. Lessons: turn back/climb/do something as soon as possible when ice appears. Quiz briefer about forecast more closely (WX improved within 90 mins). Note: I'm used to using duat; I think using duat has 'hurt' my ability to get good a 'live' briefing. I would say 'always take icing forecast seriously' except experience has shown it to be too conservative and light icing PIREPS were more believable. Better tops report would have helped a lot (they were only 1500 above me at approximately 5500). Last lesson: maybe it's time for a twin with deice. Thank god for the cak and pit approach controllers. They helped a bunch!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA ENCOUNTERS ICING, CLBS, DSNDS TO AVOID. DOES A 180 DEG TURN. CTLRS GIVE GOOD ASSISTANCE.
Narrative: DEPARTED HLG INTO FORECAST MODERATE/LCL SEVERE ICE ICIP WITH PIREPS OF LIGHT RIME/MIXED. ENTERED LIGHT RIME AT 3500 CONTINUED AT 4000 AND BECAME MODERATE RIME. REQUESTED 2000 AND GOT IT, BUT ICE CONTINUED. AFTER PIT APCH HANDED US OFF TO CAK APCH RECEIVED RPT OF MODERATE MIXED FROM 2000-4000 AT CAK (NEAR OUR DEST OF 1G3). REQUESTED AND RECEIVED RETURN TO HLG. ACFT HAD APPROX 1 INCH ICE ON WING AND TAIL; REQUIRED 25/25 PWR FOR LEVEL FLT. DURING TURN ONTO APCH (ILS 3 AT HLG)DSNDED TO 2700 (POSSIBLE ALT VIOLATION -- WE WERE CLRED FOR 3000). I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT TOO AGGRESSIVE USE OF CTLS AS AIRSPD WAS ONLY 100 KTS. LANDED AT HLG; ICE CAME OFF AT 2500 ON THE APCH. LESSONS: TURN BACK/CLB/DO SOMETHING ASAP WHEN ICE APPEARS. QUIZ BRIEFER ABOUT FORECAST MORE CLOSELY (WX IMPROVED WITHIN 90 MINS). NOTE: I'M USED TO USING DUAT; I THINK USING DUAT HAS 'HURT' MY ABILITY TO GET GOOD A 'LIVE' BRIEFING. I WOULD SAY 'ALWAYS TAKE ICING FORECAST SERIOUSLY' EXCEPT EXPERIENCE HAS SHOWN IT TO BE TOO CONSERVATIVE AND LIGHT ICING PIREPS WERE MORE BELIEVABLE. BETTER TOPS RPT WOULD HAVE HELPED A LOT (THEY WERE ONLY 1500 ABOVE ME AT APPROX 5500). LAST LESSON: MAYBE IT'S TIME FOR A TWIN WITH DEICE. THANK GOD FOR THE CAK AND PIT APCH CTLRS. THEY HELPED A BUNCH!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.