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Attributes | |
ACN | 205941 |
Time | |
Date | 199203 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : den |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 700 agl bound upper : 700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : den tower : den |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 19000 flight time type : 14000 |
ASRS Report | 205941 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We encountered about a 35-40 min taxi delay due to den departure control radar being OTS and departure separation was per den center radar requirements. We were cleared for takeoff shortly after the aircraft in front of us was airborne. If departure control radar was up and running, we were never told about it. Due to tail wind, takeoff was made with flaps 15, maximum EPR. At about 500 ft afe, we received a 'TA' and about 700 ft afe we received a 'RA' to climb. The scope showed an aircraft at our 10 O'clock position about 1 mi distance. We could also see landing lights pointed in our direction and at our altitude. Captain was flying and aircraft was performing at V2 plus 10. I could not climb any faster without possibly getting a stick shaker and I dared not descend at that altitude at night. I possibly could have turned eastbound but I was not sure if an aircraft was airborne off runway 35R. The TCASII continued to get upset because I was not climbing per requirements needed to miss the aircraft. This lasted for about 15-20 seconds and visually we could see the aircraft was turning south and would miss us. We had been switched to departure controller frequency about the same time as the TA and RA were encountered. I quizzed the controller about the aircraft and was told that he knew nothing about it. I quizzed him again and then was told that an light transport had landed on runway 18 and was not problem to our aircraft. I had not been told about this VFR traffic landing in the opposite direction. With all the city lights out the left side of the aircraft it was difficult to spot the aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X TCASII TA RA WITH LTT IN ATA AFTER TKOF AT 700 FT.
Narrative: WE ENCOUNTERED ABOUT A 35-40 MIN TAXI DELAY DUE TO DEN DEP CTL RADAR BEING OTS AND DEP SEPARATION WAS PER DEN CTR RADAR REQUIREMENTS. WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF SHORTLY AFTER THE ACFT IN FRONT OF US WAS AIRBORNE. IF DEP CTL RADAR WAS UP AND RUNNING, WE WERE NEVER TOLD ABOUT IT. DUE TO TAIL WIND, TKOF WAS MADE WITH FLAPS 15, MAX EPR. AT ABOUT 500 FT AFE, WE RECEIVED A 'TA' AND ABOUT 700 FT AFE WE RECEIVED A 'RA' TO CLB. THE SCOPE SHOWED AN ACFT AT OUR 10 O'CLOCK POS ABOUT 1 MI DISTANCE. WE COULD ALSO SEE LNDG LIGHTS POINTED IN OUR DIRECTION AND AT OUR ALT. CAPT WAS FLYING AND ACFT WAS PERFORMING AT V2 PLUS 10. I COULD NOT CLB ANY FASTER WITHOUT POSSIBLY GETTING A STICK SHAKER AND I DARED NOT DSND AT THAT ALT AT NIGHT. I POSSIBLY COULD HAVE TURNED EBOUND BUT I WAS NOT SURE IF AN ACFT WAS AIRBORNE OFF RWY 35R. THE TCASII CONTINUED TO GET UPSET BECAUSE I WAS NOT CLBING PER REQUIREMENTS NEEDED TO MISS THE ACFT. THIS LASTED FOR ABOUT 15-20 SECONDS AND VISUALLY WE COULD SEE THE ACFT WAS TURNING S AND WOULD MISS US. WE HAD BEEN SWITCHED TO DEP CTLR FREQ ABOUT THE SAME TIME AS THE TA AND RA WERE ENCOUNTERED. I QUIZZED THE CTLR ABOUT THE ACFT AND WAS TOLD THAT HE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT. I QUIZZED HIM AGAIN AND THEN WAS TOLD THAT AN LTT HAD LANDED ON RWY 18 AND WAS NOT PROBLEM TO OUR ACFT. I HAD NOT BEEN TOLD ABOUT THIS VFR TFC LNDG IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. WITH ALL THE CITY LIGHTS OUT THE L SIDE OF THE ACFT IT WAS DIFFICULT TO SPOT THE ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.