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Attributes | |
ACN | 207341 |
Time | |
Date | 199204 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sax |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 16000 msl bound upper : 17300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny tower : pit |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 207341 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 4500 |
ASRS Report | 207201 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 600 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Level at 16000 ft after departure from lga air carrier X was receiving departure vectors from center controller. Observed traffic indicated on TCASII and heard the aural traffic warning. Aircraft was converging from below. TCASII RA then commanded a 1500 FPM climb. Pitched the aircraft to approximately 1800 FPM and left ATC assigned altitude of 16000 ft. TCASII reported clear of conflict at approximately 17300 ft. The captain advised ATC of the TCASII event. The controller reassigned us 17000 ft, continued normally to destination. Looks like ATC error, but the controller didn't seem too concerned. Probably would have been much different outcome if not for TCASII. Never received ATC advisory of traffic. Supplemental information from acn 207201: TCASII showed 600 ft below and 1 mi to my left.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TCASII TA RA. ACR X EXCURSION FROM ASSIGNED ALT. PLTDEV.
Narrative: LEVEL AT 16000 FT AFTER DEP FROM LGA ACR X WAS RECEIVING DEP VECTORS FROM CTR CTLR. OBSERVED TFC INDICATED ON TCASII AND HEARD THE AURAL TFC WARNING. ACFT WAS CONVERGING FROM BELOW. TCASII RA THEN COMMANDED A 1500 FPM CLB. PITCHED THE ACFT TO APPROX 1800 FPM AND LEFT ATC ASSIGNED ALT OF 16000 FT. TCASII RPTED CLR OF CONFLICT AT APPROX 17300 FT. THE CAPT ADVISED ATC OF THE TCASII EVENT. THE CTLR REASSIGNED US 17000 FT, CONTINUED NORMALLY TO DEST. LOOKS LIKE ATC ERROR, BUT THE CTLR DIDN'T SEEM TOO CONCERNED. PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH DIFFERENT OUTCOME IF NOT FOR TCASII. NEVER RECEIVED ATC ADVISORY OF TFC. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 207201: TCASII SHOWED 600 FT BELOW AND 1 MI TO MY L.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.