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Attributes | |
ACN | 208870 |
Time | |
Date | 199205 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : apa |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 208870 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
My student and I approached the apa-air traffic area from the east. We received clearance for left downwind runway 17L and then received clearance for touch and go on runway 17L. Normally at apa, 17L is the active and right traffic is used for 17R if aircraft remain in the touch and go pattern. To the best of our knowledge, my student, who has about 15 hours solo in the area, and I heard the tower controller tell us 'after your touch and go, make right traffic to runway 17R.' we acknowledged that clearance. Then we thought we heard the tower clear us for touch and go on 17R. We acknowledged that clearance. A jet departed runway 17L and the tower came on and said 'due to wake turbulence from the departing jet make a full stop landing.' I waived the wake turbulence separation and my student and I heard the tower acknowledge my transmission, and clear us for touch and go. We now set up for and completed our landing touchdown on 17R. On rollout the tower said 'small aircraft how do you hear?' I said 'loud and clear.' the tower SID 'make a full stop landing. You landed on 17R and that runway is closed.' at this writing the tapes have not been listened to. I think, as of this writing the controller issued us the day in and day out routine clearance 'make your first touch and go on 17L, another enter right traffic for 17R.' if that was the case, then there probably was an operational error on the controller's part. We made our first touch and go on 17L and then entered right traffic for 17R and made our next landing on 17R. Further, the tower controller said she issued 3 go around advisories to us but we didn't hear them. We heard her tell us to make full stop when we were on the rollout. We wonder why the radio worked on downwind and on rollout, but did not work on final. My friends say they heard the go around instructions. The human factors seem obvious. Either the controller from force of habit, did say 'right traffic for 17R' and made an operational error, or I assumed she said 'right traffic for 17R' when in fact she said '17L,' and I made a pilot error. We all get in a 'ruts' and don't listen carefully, day in and day out. The tower said the runway was notamed closed. I didn't check NOTAMS for a local flight and didn't hear mention of a closed runway on the ATIS. We need to listen, and to guard against complacency and human infallibility. How about putting down temporary X's like traffic cones.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR AND SPI MAKING TOUCH AND GO LNDGS LAND ON CLOSED RWY.
Narrative: MY STUDENT AND I APCHED THE APA-ATA FROM THE E. WE RECEIVED CLRNC FOR L DOWNWIND RWY 17L AND THEN RECEIVED CLRNC FOR TOUCH AND GO ON RWY 17L. NORMALLY AT APA, 17L IS THE ACTIVE AND R TFC IS USED FOR 17R IF ACFT REMAIN IN THE TOUCH AND GO PATTERN. TO THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE, MY STUDENT, WHO HAS ABOUT 15 HRS SOLO IN THE AREA, AND I HEARD THE TWR CTLR TELL US 'AFTER YOUR TOUCH AND GO, MAKE R TFC TO RWY 17R.' WE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT CLRNC. THEN WE THOUGHT WE HEARD THE TWR CLR US FOR TOUCH AND GO ON 17R. WE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT CLRNC. A JET DEPARTED RWY 17L AND THE TWR CAME ON AND SAID 'DUE TO WAKE TURB FROM THE DEPARTING JET MAKE A FULL STOP LNDG.' I WAIVED THE WAKE TURB SEPARATION AND MY STUDENT AND I HEARD THE TWR ACKNOWLEDGE MY XMISSION, AND CLR US FOR TOUCH AND GO. WE NOW SET UP FOR AND COMPLETED OUR LNDG TOUCHDOWN ON 17R. ON ROLLOUT THE TWR SAID 'SMA HOW DO YOU HEAR?' I SAID 'LOUD AND CLR.' THE TWR SID 'MAKE A FULL STOP LNDG. YOU LANDED ON 17R AND THAT RWY IS CLOSED.' AT THIS WRITING THE TAPES HAVE NOT BEEN LISTENED TO. I THINK, AS OF THIS WRITING THE CTLR ISSUED US THE DAY IN AND DAY OUT ROUTINE CLRNC 'MAKE YOUR FIRST TOUCH AND GO ON 17L, ANOTHER ENTER R TFC FOR 17R.' IF THAT WAS THE CASE, THEN THERE PROBABLY WAS AN OPERATIONAL ERROR ON THE CTLR'S PART. WE MADE OUR FIRST TOUCH AND GO ON 17L AND THEN ENTERED R TFC FOR 17R AND MADE OUR NEXT LNDG ON 17R. FURTHER, THE TWR CTLR SAID SHE ISSUED 3 GAR ADVISORIES TO US BUT WE DIDN'T HEAR THEM. WE HEARD HER TELL US TO MAKE FULL STOP WHEN WE WERE ON THE ROLLOUT. WE WONDER WHY THE RADIO WORKED ON DOWNWIND AND ON ROLLOUT, BUT DID NOT WORK ON FINAL. MY FRIENDS SAY THEY HEARD THE GAR INSTRUCTIONS. THE HUMAN FACTORS SEEM OBVIOUS. EITHER THE CTLR FROM FORCE OF HABIT, DID SAY 'R TFC FOR 17R' AND MADE AN OPERROR, OR I ASSUMED SHE SAID 'R TFC FOR 17R' WHEN IN FACT SHE SAID '17L,' AND I MADE A PLT ERROR. WE ALL GET IN A 'RUTS' AND DON'T LISTEN CAREFULLY, DAY IN AND DAY OUT. THE TWR SAID THE RWY WAS NOTAMED CLOSED. I DIDN'T CHK NOTAMS FOR A LCL FLT AND DIDN'T HEAR MENTION OF A CLOSED RWY ON THE ATIS. WE NEED TO LISTEN, AND TO GUARD AGAINST COMPLACENCY AND HUMAN INFALLIBILITY. HOW ABOUT PUTTING DOWN TEMPORARY X'S LIKE TFC CONES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.