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Attributes | |
ACN | 209777 |
Time | |
Date | 199205 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cvg |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6500 msl bound upper : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cvg |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 500 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 209777 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were handed over to cvg approach during a descent to 5000 ft. Before we could check in with cvg approach, our attention was drawn to a TCASII alert. It showed an aircraft approaching from the right, and 500 ft below. We then got a traffic call from approach control but no altitude information or turn. We stopped our descent and then saw the aircraft pass under us, 500 ft below, no horizontal separation. If we hadn't stopped our descent, it is the opinion of myself and my copilot that the aircraft would have collided. I called the approach control supervisor. He told me that they knew the other aircraft's altitude was 6500 ft from mode C readout but didn't tell us because he was VFR and therefore his altitude was 'unverified.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR HAS NMAC WITH VFR ACFT. TCASII ALERT STOPPED DSCNT.
Narrative: WE WERE HANDED OVER TO CVG APCH DURING A DSCNT TO 5000 FT. BEFORE WE COULD CHK IN WITH CVG APCH, OUR ATTN WAS DRAWN TO A TCASII ALERT. IT SHOWED AN ACFT APCHING FROM THE R, AND 500 FT BELOW. WE THEN GOT A TFC CALL FROM APCH CTL BUT NO ALT INFO OR TURN. WE STOPPED OUR DSCNT AND THEN SAW THE ACFT PASS UNDER US, 500 FT BELOW, NO HORIZ SEPARATION. IF WE HADN'T STOPPED OUR DSCNT, IT IS THE OPINION OF MYSELF AND MY COPLT THAT THE ACFT WOULD HAVE COLLIDED. I CALLED THE APCH CTL SUPVR. HE TOLD ME THAT THEY KNEW THE OTHER ACFT'S ALT WAS 6500 FT FROM MODE C READOUT BUT DIDN'T TELL US BECAUSE HE WAS VFR AND THEREFORE HIS ALT WAS 'UNVERIFIED.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.