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Attributes | |
ACN | 209962 |
Time | |
Date | 199205 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sjc |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : oak |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6500 |
ASRS Report | 209962 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
From sjc-dfw flight we had a near miss. There were several factors which attributed to this near miss and it definitely was preventable. The crew was flying a complex departure called the loupe 8. After departing runway 30 at the 1.8 DME fix, a right 180 degree turn is required for noise abatement. Once on the heading we are permitted according to procedure to clean up the aircraft while meeting many altitude crossing restrictions. After the aircraft was in a clean confign with an average rate of climb of 2500 FPM, ATC issued in a very monotone voice traffic 10-11 O'clock 4500 ft eastbound. We reported back negative contact and proceeded with our cockpit duties of making sure we meet crossing restrictions. The frequency was quiet 121.3. The next thing we notice on the TCASII a red target approximately 5 NM away, the target suddenly disappeared. ATC then issued a 'suggested' heading of 090 with a slight inflection in his voice. At that time, the target reappeared less than 1 NM away 'diamond 00,' which means at our altitude. The TCASII instructing 'monitor vertical speed' the ivsi was totally red with no green band like it is supposed to have with that instruction, then the TCASII said clear of conflict. I felt the ATC controller should have been more forceful with his instructions and this situation would have never occurred.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LGT FLYING SID HAS TCASII ALERT. CTLR 'SUGGESTS' HDG CHANGE. TCASII TARGET DISAPPEARS, THEN REAPPEARS WITH INSTRUCTIONS 'MONITOR VERT SPD.'
Narrative: FROM SJC-DFW FLT WE HAD A NEAR MISS. THERE WERE SEVERAL FACTORS WHICH ATTRIBUTED TO THIS NEAR MISS AND IT DEFINITELY WAS PREVENTABLE. THE CREW WAS FLYING A COMPLEX DEP CALLED THE LOUPE 8. AFTER DEPARTING RWY 30 AT THE 1.8 DME FIX, A R 180 DEG TURN IS REQUIRED FOR NOISE ABATEMENT. ONCE ON THE HDG WE ARE PERMITTED ACCORDING TO PROC TO CLEAN UP THE ACFT WHILE MEETING MANY ALT XING RESTRICTIONS. AFTER THE ACFT WAS IN A CLEAN CONFIGN WITH AN AVERAGE RATE OF CLB OF 2500 FPM, ATC ISSUED IN A VERY MONOTONE VOICE TFC 10-11 O'CLOCK 4500 FT EBOUND. WE RPTED BACK NEGATIVE CONTACT AND PROCEEDED WITH OUR COCKPIT DUTIES OF MAKING SURE WE MEET XING RESTRICTIONS. THE FREQ WAS QUIET 121.3. THE NEXT THING WE NOTICE ON THE TCASII A RED TARGET APPROX 5 NM AWAY, THE TARGET SUDDENLY DISAPPEARED. ATC THEN ISSUED A 'SUGGESTED' HDG OF 090 WITH A SLIGHT INFLECTION IN HIS VOICE. AT THAT TIME, THE TARGET REAPPEARED LESS THAN 1 NM AWAY 'DIAMOND 00,' WHICH MEANS AT OUR ALT. THE TCASII INSTRUCTING 'MONITOR VERT SPD' THE IVSI WAS TOTALLY RED WITH NO GREEN BAND LIKE IT IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE WITH THAT INSTRUCTION, THEN THE TCASII SAID CLR OF CONFLICT. I FELT THE ATC CTLR SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE FORCEFUL WITH HIS INSTRUCTIONS AND THIS SITUATION WOULD HAVE NEVER OCCURRED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.