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Attributes | |
ACN | 210489 |
Time | |
Date | 199205 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pen |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pen |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other landing other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 210489 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : private pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 850 |
ASRS Report | 210215 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Aircraft was inbound to penang malaysia at 4000 ft MSL. First officer at controls. Approach controllers english was bad and a misunderstanding existed between what the cockpit crew was expecting to do and what the controller was expecting. Clearance had been something like 'report field in sight for visual downwind' since we were approaching from south and runway 04 was in use, the term 'downwind' did not seem to make sense. We incorrectly assumed that he meant 'downwind of the field.' all 3 crew members were concentrating on looking outside to pick up the field visually. Our intentions were to call the field in sight, jog to the left to intercept final approach bearing, and land on runway 04. Although visibility was excellent, we did not pick up the field until approximately 10 DME due to a hill southeast of the field. As we all picked up the field visually, the first officer immediately clicked off the autoplt, turned left, and began a descent for the visual approach. I called the field in sight to approach control but there was a delay in response. By the time approach did respond to our call the aircraft was nearing 3000 ft MSL. Approach asked us to confirm our altitude and then cleared us for visual approach. There were not other aircraft in the vicinity of the airport. Later, over the phone, I determined that approach expected us to fly overhead the airport at 4000 ft and enter holding for further instructions. This was not clear to us.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A WDB FREIGHTER CREW RAN INTO A LANGUAGE PROBLEM AT PENANG RESULTING IN AN UNAUTHORIZED DSCNT AND HDG CHANGE.
Narrative: ACFT WAS INBOUND TO PENANG MALAYSIA AT 4000 FT MSL. FO AT CTLS. APCH CTLRS ENGLISH WAS BAD AND A MISUNDERSTANDING EXISTED BTWN WHAT THE COCKPIT CREW WAS EXPECTING TO DO AND WHAT THE CTLR WAS EXPECTING. CLRNC HAD BEEN SOMETHING LIKE 'RPT FIELD IN SIGHT FOR VISUAL DOWNWIND' SINCE WE WERE APCHING FROM S AND RWY 04 WAS IN USE, THE TERM 'DOWNWIND' DID NOT SEEM TO MAKE SENSE. WE INCORRECTLY ASSUMED THAT HE MEANT 'DOWNWIND OF THE FIELD.' ALL 3 CREW MEMBERS WERE CONCENTRATING ON LOOKING OUTSIDE TO PICK UP THE FIELD VISUALLY. OUR INTENTIONS WERE TO CALL THE FIELD IN SIGHT, JOG TO THE L TO INTERCEPT FINAL APCH BEARING, AND LAND ON RWY 04. ALTHOUGH VISIBILITY WAS EXCELLENT, WE DID NOT PICK UP THE FIELD UNTIL APPROX 10 DME DUE TO A HILL SE OF THE FIELD. AS WE ALL PICKED UP THE FIELD VISUALLY, THE FO IMMEDIATELY CLICKED OFF THE AUTOPLT, TURNED L, AND BEGAN A DSCNT FOR THE VISUAL APCH. I CALLED THE FIELD IN SIGHT TO APCH CTL BUT THERE WAS A DELAY IN RESPONSE. BY THE TIME APCH DID RESPOND TO OUR CALL THE ACFT WAS NEARING 3000 FT MSL. APCH ASKED US TO CONFIRM OUR ALT AND THEN CLRED US FOR VISUAL APCH. THERE WERE NOT OTHER ACFT IN THE VICINITY OF THE ARPT. LATER, OVER THE PHONE, I DETERMINED THAT APCH EXPECTED US TO FLY OVERHEAD THE ARPT AT 4000 FT AND ENTER HOLDING FOR FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS. THIS WAS NOT CLR TO US.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.