Private small aircraft pilot has difficult time in establishing status of other special use airspace...

Attributes
ACN	210865
Time
Date	199205
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : lhs
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 8500 msl bound upper : 8500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zla military facility : edw
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	enroute : direct
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : private
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 10 flight time total : 91 flight time type : 51
ASRS Report	210865
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	other personnel other
Qualification	other
Events
Anomaly	non adherence other other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Was on a pleasure flight from apv to bfl, ca. Made contact with riverside FSS on 122.2 as directed on los angeles sectional to check activity status of special military activity area in that area. FSS asked for name of area but I had been unable to locate a name prior to or during the flight. I requested status for that area which extends over the lake hughes VOR by naming that VOR. FSS said that if I couldn't name it, they couldn't help me. At the end of flight I showed sectional to 1 CFI and 1 more experienced pilot and asked if they could find a name of this area on the sectional chart. They couldn't name it either. Next day I showed sectional to 2 pilots and 2 more CFI's. The 2 pilots and 1 CFI couldn't provide an answer. Third CFI explained that the name of the special military activity area was the same as the training route number. The apparent name of this area is 'IR200,' and I should have requested information for this area by reference to the training route number. Although the top of the chart had references to special military activity, it was vague on how my request should have been made. Perhaps next publication of this chart could provide some direction on how to make the request or how to obtain the name of the area. Assistance was received from edwards approach as indicated on same sectional.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: PRIVATE SMA PLT HAS DIFFICULT TIME IN ESTABLISHING STATUS OF OTHER SPECIAL USE AIRSPACE WHILE ENRTE TO DEST ARPT. UNCOORD PENETRATION OF AIRSPACE.

Narrative: WAS ON A PLEASURE FLT FROM APV TO BFL, CA. MADE CONTACT WITH RIVERSIDE FSS ON 122.2 AS DIRECTED ON LOS ANGELES SECTIONAL TO CHK ACTIVITY STATUS OF SPECIAL MIL ACTIVITY AREA IN THAT AREA. FSS ASKED FOR NAME OF AREA BUT I HAD BEEN UNABLE TO LOCATE A NAME PRIOR TO OR DURING THE FLT. I REQUESTED STATUS FOR THAT AREA WHICH EXTENDS OVER THE LAKE HUGHES VOR BY NAMING THAT VOR. FSS SAID THAT IF I COULDN'T NAME IT, THEY COULDN'T HELP ME. AT THE END OF FLT I SHOWED SECTIONAL TO 1 CFI AND 1 MORE EXPERIENCED PLT AND ASKED IF THEY COULD FIND A NAME OF THIS AREA ON THE SECTIONAL CHART. THEY COULDN'T NAME IT EITHER. NEXT DAY I SHOWED SECTIONAL TO 2 PLTS AND 2 MORE CFI'S. THE 2 PLTS AND 1 CFI COULDN'T PROVIDE AN ANSWER. THIRD CFI EXPLAINED THAT THE NAME OF THE SPECIAL MIL ACTIVITY AREA WAS THE SAME AS THE TRAINING RTE NUMBER. THE APPARENT NAME OF THIS AREA IS 'IR200,' AND I SHOULD HAVE REQUESTED INFO FOR THIS AREA BY REF TO THE TRAINING RTE NUMBER. ALTHOUGH THE TOP OF THE CHART HAD REFS TO SPECIAL MIL ACTIVITY, IT WAS VAGUE ON HOW MY REQUEST SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE. PERHAPS NEXT PUBLICATION OF THIS CHART COULD PROVIDE SOME DIRECTION ON HOW TO MAKE THE REQUEST OR HOW TO OBTAIN THE NAME OF THE AREA. ASSISTANCE WAS RECEIVED FROM EDWARDS APCH AS INDICATED ON SAME SECTIONAL.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Private small aircraft pilot has difficult time in establishing status of other special use airspace while en route to destination airport. Uncoord penetration of airspace.