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Attributes | |
ACN | 211473 |
Time | |
Date | 199205 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : atl |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3500 msl bound upper : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : atl tower : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 211473 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On approach to atl we were being vector to final for runway 9R. We were cleared to 3500 ft and given a heading of 350 degree. Also speed reduction to 180 KTS. We complied with all instructions and were told to switch to 118.30 for further control. I checked in and was told of our traffic, a commuter aircraft. I called the traffic in sight and was told again the speed of 180 KTS and heading 350 degree. As we flew north through the localizer I called approach, suspecting a los of communication. I tried radio #2 with no success and then I called on 121.5. Approach called us on the previous frequency which the captain had selected on radio #1 and they vectored us around to final again for a successful approach and landing. In the interim we had crossed the final approach courses for 9R and 8L. Everyone in the cockpit had been on the lookout for traffic and none was seen. Approach control said nothing about any traffic conflicts in our excursion. As luck would have it this aircraft is not yet outfitted with TCASII. After some thought I wonder if we would have been more correct to have made a quick turn to final and either call tower or the previous approach control frequency. We were fortunate that it was a slack arrival time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR WDB FLC EXPERIENCES LOSS OF COM WHILE ON VECTORS TO FINAL AT ATL, CROSSES APCH COURSE FOR OTHER RWYS AND GETS VECTORED AROUND FOR ANOTHER APCH AFTER THE APCH CTLR RE- ESTABLISHED CONTACT. NO APPARENT TFC CONFLICT.
Narrative: ON APCH TO ATL WE WERE BEING VECTOR TO FINAL FOR RWY 9R. WE WERE CLRED TO 3500 FT AND GIVEN A HDG OF 350 DEG. ALSO SPD REDUCTION TO 180 KTS. WE COMPLIED WITH ALL INSTRUCTIONS AND WERE TOLD TO SWITCH TO 118.30 FOR FURTHER CTL. I CHKED IN AND WAS TOLD OF OUR TFC, A COMMUTER ACFT. I CALLED THE TFC IN SIGHT AND WAS TOLD AGAIN THE SPD OF 180 KTS AND HDG 350 DEG. AS WE FLEW N THROUGH THE LOC I CALLED APCH, SUSPECTING A LOS OF COM. I TRIED RADIO #2 WITH NO SUCCESS AND THEN I CALLED ON 121.5. APCH CALLED US ON THE PREVIOUS FREQ WHICH THE CAPT HAD SELECTED ON RADIO #1 AND THEY VECTORED US AROUND TO FINAL AGAIN FOR A SUCCESSFUL APCH AND LNDG. IN THE INTERIM WE HAD CROSSED THE FINAL APCH COURSES FOR 9R AND 8L. EVERYONE IN THE COCKPIT HAD BEEN ON THE LOOKOUT FOR TFC AND NONE WAS SEEN. APCH CTL SAID NOTHING ABOUT ANY TFC CONFLICTS IN OUR EXCURSION. AS LUCK WOULD HAVE IT THIS ACFT IS NOT YET OUTFITTED WITH TCASII. AFTER SOME THOUGHT I WONDER IF WE WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE CORRECT TO HAVE MADE A QUICK TURN TO FINAL AND EITHER CALL TWR OR THE PREVIOUS APCH CTL FREQ. WE WERE FORTUNATE THAT IT WAS A SLACK ARR TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.