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Attributes | |
ACN | 212220 |
Time | |
Date | 199206 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : phl |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 8300 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 212220 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government other |
Function | other personnel other |
Qualification | other other : other |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
Airport | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
After arrival in phl on concourse C, my crew changed to a different aircraft on concourse B. As we walked across the ramp we were stopped by a local airport police to examine our airline idents. He told us we did not have the proper identify to have access to the ramp areas. This procedure is very new to the phl airport. Airport police are enforcing this action without posting any signs that warn flcs of the new policies. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter agrees that flcs shouldn't walk across the ramp unnecessarily but thinks it might be a good idea for flcs to have some universal form of identify to permit access when needed. He said that the problem at phl has been resolved by his flight office.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ARPT POLICE ENFORCE A NEW REQUIREMENT FOR PROPER IDENT FOR PERSONNEL ON THE RAMP.
Narrative: AFTER ARR IN PHL ON CONCOURSE C, MY CREW CHANGED TO A DIFFERENT ACFT ON CONCOURSE B. AS WE WALKED ACROSS THE RAMP WE WERE STOPPED BY A LCL ARPT POLICE TO EXAMINE OUR AIRLINE IDENTS. HE TOLD US WE DID NOT HAVE THE PROPER IDENT TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE RAMP AREAS. THIS PROC IS VERY NEW TO THE PHL ARPT. ARPT POLICE ARE ENFORCING THIS ACTION WITHOUT POSTING ANY SIGNS THAT WARN FLCS OF THE NEW POLICIES. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR AGREES THAT FLCS SHOULDN'T WALK ACROSS THE RAMP UNNECESSARILY BUT THINKS IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA FOR FLCS TO HAVE SOME UNIVERSAL FORM OF IDENT TO PERMIT ACCESS WHEN NEEDED. HE SAID THAT THE PROBLEM AT PHL HAS BEEN RESOLVED BY HIS FLT OFFICE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.