Narrative:

I have encountered quite a few stars that have published altitude restrictions that are not assigned as published or not given at all. There are many crossing restrictions that are given routinely but not published. I believe that some altitude busts could be prevented if crews knew what to expect. Enclosed are some examples. Please not some of the comments I have written on them. I'll bet that if you would solicit other examples in the 'callback' you would get many more examples. Experience has taught me to always expect somto at 11000 (lga nanci 4 STAR). I have never not been assigned cardi at 15000 (san cardi 2 STAR). ZOA controllers have told me that they know of no one who assigns the skunk restriction (sfo bsr 1 STAR). Most controllers assign pillo at 10000. 1 controller assigned me 40W of mzb (1 mi west of pillo) at 10000. When I questioned him if he meant pillo, he said there had been a LOA between ZLA and san approach for 20 yrs requiring that restriction (san baret 3 STAR).

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: COMPLAINT ABOUT CONTENT OF STAR CHARTS, SPECIFICALLY UNUSED 'EXPECT' XING RESTRICTIONS AND, IN SOME CASES, THE LACK OF SOME 'EXPECT' XING RESTRICTIONS.

Narrative: I HAVE ENCOUNTERED QUITE A FEW STARS THAT HAVE PUBLISHED ALT RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE NOT ASSIGNED AS PUBLISHED OR NOT GIVEN AT ALL. THERE ARE MANY XING RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE GIVEN ROUTINELY BUT NOT PUBLISHED. I BELIEVE THAT SOME ALT BUSTS COULD BE PREVENTED IF CREWS KNEW WHAT TO EXPECT. ENCLOSED ARE SOME EXAMPLES. PLEASE NOT SOME OF THE COMMENTS I HAVE WRITTEN ON THEM. I'LL BET THAT IF YOU WOULD SOLICIT OTHER EXAMPLES IN THE 'CALLBACK' YOU WOULD GET MANY MORE EXAMPLES. EXPERIENCE HAS TAUGHT ME TO ALWAYS EXPECT SOMTO AT 11000 (LGA NANCI 4 STAR). I HAVE NEVER NOT BEEN ASSIGNED CARDI AT 15000 (SAN CARDI 2 STAR). ZOA CTLRS HAVE TOLD ME THAT THEY KNOW OF NO ONE WHO ASSIGNS THE SKUNK RESTRICTION (SFO BSR 1 STAR). MOST CTLRS ASSIGN PILLO AT 10000. 1 CTLR ASSIGNED ME 40W OF MZB (1 MI W OF PILLO) AT 10000. WHEN I QUESTIONED HIM IF HE MEANT PILLO, HE SAID THERE HAD BEEN A LOA BTWN ZLA AND SAN APCH FOR 20 YRS REQUIRING THAT RESTRICTION (SAN BARET 3 STAR).

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.