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Attributes | |
ACN | 212936 |
Time | |
Date | 199206 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : day |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2600 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : day |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 125 flight time total : 6700 flight time type : 1200 |
ASRS Report | 212936 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I believe this was only a communication problem. We were almost established on the ILS 6L day at approximately 3 mi outside marker, no GS indications yet, when cleared to 2000 MSL. My first officer read back the clearance to 2000 ft MSL, which was not corrected by approach. After passing 2600 ft MSL descending, I realized that we couldn't possibly have been correctly cleared to 2000 ft MSL. The approach intercept altitude is 3000 ft! (With 'towers' approximately 2500 ft just north of the approach course). I immediately climbed to 3000 ft MSL and completed approach. We were all tired since it was about XA45 am and didn't notice the altitude should have been higher to intercept, thus we didn't question anyone. In my judgement, I believe it is more important to make sure everyone in the cockpit remembers the intercept altitude and mins!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CARGO FLT DSNDS BELOW INTERCEPT ALT ON APCH BELIEVING CLRED TO THAT ALT.
Narrative: I BELIEVE THIS WAS ONLY A COM PROBLEM. WE WERE ALMOST ESTABLISHED ON THE ILS 6L DAY AT APPROX 3 MI OUTSIDE MARKER, NO GS INDICATIONS YET, WHEN CLRED TO 2000 MSL. MY FO READ BACK THE CLRNC TO 2000 FT MSL, WHICH WAS NOT CORRECTED BY APCH. AFTER PASSING 2600 FT MSL DSNDING, I REALIZED THAT WE COULDN'T POSSIBLY HAVE BEEN CORRECTLY CLRED TO 2000 FT MSL. THE APCH INTERCEPT ALT IS 3000 FT! (WITH 'TWRS' APPROX 2500 FT JUST N OF THE APCH COURSE). I IMMEDIATELY CLBED TO 3000 FT MSL AND COMPLETED APCH. WE WERE ALL TIRED SINCE IT WAS ABOUT XA45 AM AND DIDN'T NOTICE THE ALT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HIGHER TO INTERCEPT, THUS WE DIDN'T QUESTION ANYONE. IN MY JUDGEMENT, I BELIEVE IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IN THE COCKPIT REMEMBERS THE INTERCEPT ALT AND MINS!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.