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Attributes | |
ACN | 213446 |
Time | |
Date | 199206 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dbn |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 23000 msl bound upper : 23200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 40 |
ASRS Report | 213446 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 10050 flight time type : 120 |
ASRS Report | 213445 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 2000 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Preflight activities included a transponder/TCASII test which was normal. The flight departed with the normal flight crew plus a flight instructor on the jumpseat. The flight was level at FL230 when some communication problems with center occurred, mainly the center controller's radio transmissions being garbled as well as the flight's transmissions. The center controller stated the problem was with his equipment. No TA's were received from center or were too garbled to receive. The transponder was operating in the TA/RA mode and the flight was level at FL230 when the TCASII issued a TA. The TA was quickly changed to an RA which said descend, but then changed immediately to a climb, climb. The vertical speed indicator showed a red arc to a climb rate of between 1500 and 2000 FPM with the green 'fly to' arc above this rate. The aircraft was placed into a climb and ATC advised of the RA and altitude change. Passing through 23200 ft the traffic was sighted visually. The traffic was an medium large transport approximately 1000 ft above. Realizing TCASII had given an improper command, the climb was stopped and the aircraft returned to FL230. The altitude deviation did not exceed 23300 ft. During subsequent discussion with center it was learned that the traffic (medium large transport) had been descending rapidly to FL240 due to turbulence and also received an RA to climb. The aircraft were converging on an angle of approximately 45 degrees. Supplemental information from acn 213445: we had boarded this aircraft in atlanta and flew it to savannah. A successful test of the transponder/TCASII system had been performed. Cruising at FL230, we got a TA aural which immediately changed to an RA alert. Before we could change our altitude, the RA changed from descend to 'climb, climb.' the first officer who was flying the aircraft initiated an immediate climb as I was advising ATC of our RA. We were climbing through FL230.2 when we then established visual contact with our traffic above us. Realizing TCASII had given us an improper command, we descended back to FL230. We followed policy regarding TCASII operations.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: 2 MLGS ACR ACFT HAD TCASII RA'S. THE RPTING ACFT HAD AN ALERT TELLING THE ACFT TO CLB INTO A DSNDING ACFT.
Narrative: PREFLT ACTIVITIES INCLUDED A TRANSPONDER/TCASII TEST WHICH WAS NORMAL. THE FLT DEPARTED WITH THE NORMAL FLC PLUS A FLT INSTRUCTOR ON THE JUMPSEAT. THE FLT WAS LEVEL AT FL230 WHEN SOME COM PROBLEMS WITH CTR OCCURRED, MAINLY THE CTR CTLR'S RADIO TRANSMISSIONS BEING GARBLED AS WELL AS THE FLT'S TRANSMISSIONS. THE CTR CTLR STATED THE PROBLEM WAS WITH HIS EQUIP. NO TA'S WERE RECEIVED FROM CTR OR WERE TOO GARBLED TO RECEIVE. THE TRANSPONDER WAS OPERATING IN THE TA/RA MODE AND THE FLT WAS LEVEL AT FL230 WHEN THE TCASII ISSUED A TA. THE TA WAS QUICKLY CHANGED TO AN RA WHICH SAID DSND, BUT THEN CHANGED IMMEDIATELY TO A CLB, CLB. THE VERT SPD INDICATOR SHOWED A RED ARC TO A CLB RATE OF BTWN 1500 AND 2000 FPM WITH THE GREEN 'FLY TO' ARC ABOVE THIS RATE. THE ACFT WAS PLACED INTO A CLB AND ATC ADVISED OF THE RA AND ALT CHANGE. PASSING THROUGH 23200 FT THE TFC WAS SIGHTED VISUALLY. THE TFC WAS AN MLG APPROX 1000 FT ABOVE. REALIZING TCASII HAD GIVEN AN IMPROPER COMMAND, THE CLB WAS STOPPED AND THE ACFT RETURNED TO FL230. THE ALTDEV DID NOT EXCEED 23300 FT. DURING SUBSEQUENT DISCUSSION WITH CTR IT WAS LEARNED THAT THE TFC (MLG) HAD BEEN DSNDING RAPIDLY TO FL240 DUE TO TURB AND ALSO RECEIVED AN RA TO CLB. THE ACFT WERE CONVERGING ON AN ANGLE OF APPROX 45 DEGS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION FROM ACN 213445: WE HAD BOARDED THIS ACFT IN ATLANTA AND FLEW IT TO SAVANNAH. A SUCCESSFUL TEST OF THE TRANSPONDER/TCASII SYS HAD BEEN PERFORMED. CRUISING AT FL230, WE GOT A TA AURAL WHICH IMMEDIATELY CHANGED TO AN RA ALERT. BEFORE WE COULD CHANGE OUR ALT, THE RA CHANGED FROM DSND TO 'CLB, CLB.' THE FO WHO WAS FLYING THE ACFT INITIATED AN IMMEDIATE CLB AS I WAS ADVISING ATC OF OUR RA. WE WERE CLBING THROUGH FL230.2 WHEN WE THEN ESTABLISHED VISUAL CONTACT WITH OUR TFC ABOVE US. REALIZING TCASII HAD GIVEN US AN IMPROPER COMMAND, WE DSNDED BACK TO FL230. WE FOLLOWED POLICY REGARDING TCASII OPS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.