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Attributes | |
ACN | 215545 |
Time | |
Date | 199207 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : den |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | ground : holding |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 11000 |
ASRS Report | 215545 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 1300 |
ASRS Report | 215439 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 50 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Air carrier X landed at den on runway 26L, rolled to the end, taxied on the center taxiway between the runways to C4 as instructed, and held short. After another aircraft landed on runway 26R, we were 'cleared to cross runway 26R, contact ground on 121.9,' etc. As we started to roll forward, the tower controller told us to expedite, then amended that to hold our position. So we stopped, well past the hold short line by now. We informed the tower that we were encroaching on the runway and received a 'roger.' an medium large transport was about to land on runway 26R so we told the tower to tell the landing aircraft that we were encroaching on the runway. So he sent the aircraft on runway 26L around! The aircraft on runway 26R landed anyway. I then asked tower if we could cross the runway and was told to hold position. Another aircraft was approaching runway 26R at this time. Again, I told the tower we were encroaching on the runway, and the reply was 'roger.' then, I asked if we could get off the runway, and was told to hold position. As the landing aircraft was about to touch down, I told the tower to tell the landing aircraft that we were on the runway, and the tower then sent that aircraft around. Six times I told the controller that we were not clear of the runway, and I don't believe he ever recognized what was happening. Conversations afterward lead me to believe the controller was a trainee, which is fine, but where was the trainer? Training situations need closer supervision to preclude what could have been a disastrous outcome.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG LANDED ON OCCUPIED RWY HAD LTSS FROM ACR X. SYS ERROR.
Narrative: ACR X LANDED AT DEN ON RWY 26L, ROLLED TO THE END, TAXIED ON THE CTR TAXIWAY BTWN THE RWYS TO C4 AS INSTRUCTED, AND HELD SHORT. AFTER ANOTHER ACFT LANDED ON RWY 26R, WE WERE 'CLRED TO CROSS RWY 26R, CONTACT GND ON 121.9,' ETC. AS WE STARTED TO ROLL FORWARD, THE TWR CTLR TOLD US TO EXPEDITE, THEN AMENDED THAT TO HOLD OUR POS. SO WE STOPPED, WELL PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE BY NOW. WE INFORMED THE TWR THAT WE WERE ENCROACHING ON THE RWY AND RECEIVED A 'ROGER.' AN MLG WAS ABOUT TO LAND ON RWY 26R SO WE TOLD THE TWR TO TELL THE LNDG ACFT THAT WE WERE ENCROACHING ON THE RWY. SO HE SENT THE ACFT ON RWY 26L AROUND! THE ACFT ON RWY 26R LANDED ANYWAY. I THEN ASKED TWR IF WE COULD CROSS THE RWY AND WAS TOLD TO HOLD POS. ANOTHER ACFT WAS APCHING RWY 26R AT THIS TIME. AGAIN, I TOLD THE TWR WE WERE ENCROACHING ON THE RWY, AND THE REPLY WAS 'ROGER.' THEN, I ASKED IF WE COULD GET OFF THE RWY, AND WAS TOLD TO HOLD POS. AS THE LNDG ACFT WAS ABOUT TO TOUCH DOWN, I TOLD THE TWR TO TELL THE LNDG ACFT THAT WE WERE ON THE RWY, AND THE TWR THEN SENT THAT ACFT AROUND. SIX TIMES I TOLD THE CTLR THAT WE WERE NOT CLR OF THE RWY, AND I DON'T BELIEVE HE EVER RECOGNIZED WHAT WAS HAPPENING. CONVERSATIONS AFTERWARD LEAD ME TO BELIEVE THE CTLR WAS A TRAINEE, WHICH IS FINE, BUT WHERE WAS THE TRAINER? TRAINING SITUATIONS NEED CLOSER SUPERVISION TO PRECLUDE WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN A DISASTROUS OUTCOME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.