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Attributes | |
ACN | 215626 |
Time | |
Date | 199207 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ekr |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 37000 msl bound upper : 37000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv tower : oak |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : zdv |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 600 |
ASRS Report | 215626 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 50 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Zsl said he had our radar position approximately 58 mi from ekr at time of incident. Experienced near miss with a radio-sonde WX balloon at FL370 approximately 60D. Ekr. Cluster of 4 white balloons with radio-sonde package below passed not more than 50 ft. Directly above cockpit. Close enough we thought there was a change it could have struck vertical stabilizer. No time for evasive maneuver. First officer an ex- meteorologist and positive idented the package stating he used to launch them 3 a day. This balloon and it's package was so dead center head on that had we been a couple mins sooner I think we could have lost an airplane with 299 sob, because it would've come straight through the windscreen. Why are there no transponders on such packages so ATC can track them at altitude?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR WDB ACFT NMAC WITH A WX BALLOON-RADIOSONDE.
Narrative: ZSL SAID HE HAD OUR RADAR POS APPROX 58 MI FROM EKR AT TIME OF INCIDENT. EXPERIENCED NEAR MISS WITH A RADIO-SONDE WX BALLOON AT FL370 APPROX 60D. EKR. CLUSTER OF 4 WHITE BALLOONS WITH RADIO-SONDE PACKAGE BELOW PASSED NOT MORE THAN 50 FT. DIRECTLY ABOVE COCKPIT. CLOSE ENOUGH WE THOUGHT THERE WAS A CHANGE IT COULD HAVE STRUCK VERT STABILIZER. NO TIME FOR EVASIVE MANEUVER. FO AN EX- METEOROLOGIST AND POSITIVE IDENTED THE PACKAGE STATING HE USED TO LAUNCH THEM 3 A DAY. THIS BALLOON AND IT'S PACKAGE WAS SO DEAD CTR HEAD ON THAT HAD WE BEEN A COUPLE MINS SOONER I THINK WE COULD HAVE LOST AN AIRPLANE WITH 299 SOB, BECAUSE IT WOULD'VE COME STRAIGHT THROUGH THE WINDSCREEN. WHY ARE THERE NO TRANSPONDERS ON SUCH PACKAGES SO ATC CAN TRACK THEM AT ALT?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.