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Attributes | |
ACN | 216420 |
Time | |
Date | 199207 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pbi |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6400 msl bound upper : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : esf |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : zma |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 35 flight time total : 250 |
ASRS Report | 216420 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : regained aircraft control flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was flying with a flight instructor an small aircraft sel aircraft for an airway in IFR flight plan in VFR conditions with no restriction. The PIC was the instructor and it was a flight plan on his name. While we were flying we were joking about what would happen in case of stopping the engine. The instructor told me that the propeller would never stop. I couldn't believe him. Then he told me... Try if you want and I did it, I take off the mixture and the key. Then he start to shout me and I realize he was joking when he told me that about the key and the engine then we lose 600 ft when we recovered we had descended from 7000 ft to 6400 ft and we climb back right away. 10 mins later miami center contact us for asking why we lose that altitude and my instructor say that we had some fuel problems but everything was going ok now. The controller didn't ask more questions and we got to the airport at jacksonville international. I don't think it's professional for a flight instructor to try to avoid his fault throwing it all over the student, and because of this I have been expelled of the school. I wonder how it is possible that in this country of freedom, when a thing like this happened to me I was given no chance to prove my innocence.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INST TRAINEE MISTAKENLY SHUT OFF ENG OF AN SMA SEL ACFT DURING AN IFR XCOUNTRY FLT RESULTING IN AN ALTDEV.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING WITH A FLT INSTRUCTOR AN SMA SEL ACFT FOR AN AIRWAY IN IFR FLT PLAN IN VFR CONDITIONS WITH NO RESTRICTION. THE PIC WAS THE INSTRUCTOR AND IT WAS A FLT PLAN ON HIS NAME. WHILE WE WERE FLYING WE WERE JOKING ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN CASE OF STOPPING THE ENG. THE INSTRUCTOR TOLD ME THAT THE PROP WOULD NEVER STOP. I COULDN'T BELIEVE HIM. THEN HE TOLD ME... TRY IF YOU WANT AND I DID IT, I TAKE OFF THE MIXTURE AND THE KEY. THEN HE START TO SHOUT ME AND I REALIZE HE WAS JOKING WHEN HE TOLD ME THAT ABOUT THE KEY AND THE ENG THEN WE LOSE 600 FT WHEN WE RECOVERED WE HAD DSNDED FROM 7000 FT TO 6400 FT AND WE CLB BACK RIGHT AWAY. 10 MINS LATER MIAMI CTR CONTACT US FOR ASKING WHY WE LOSE THAT ALT AND MY INSTRUCTOR SAY THAT WE HAD SOME FUEL PROBLEMS BUT EVERYTHING WAS GOING OK NOW. THE CTLR DIDN'T ASK MORE QUESTIONS AND WE GOT TO THE ARPT AT JACKSONVILLE INTL. I DON'T THINK IT'S PROFESSIONAL FOR A FLT INSTRUCTOR TO TRY TO AVOID HIS FAULT THROWING IT ALL OVER THE STUDENT, AND BECAUSE OF THIS I HAVE BEEN EXPELLED OF THE SCHOOL. I WONDER HOW IT IS POSSIBLE THAT IN THIS COUNTRY OF FREEDOM, WHEN A THING LIKE THIS HAPPENED TO ME I WAS GIVEN NO CHANCE TO PROVE MY INNOCENCE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.