37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 217633 |
Time | |
Date | 199208 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : osh |
State Reference | WI |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Military Trainer |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Military Trainer |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 15 flight time total : 925 |
ASRS Report | 217633 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 23000 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 217758 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : declared emergency none taken : unable |
Consequence | other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 unspecified : 0 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After flying the sat air show routine, we were recovering the flts on runway 27 in relatively strong wind gusts and left xwinds. Following standard formation landing procedure, I remained on the right side of runway 27 in the mandatory staggered position spaced behind #3 on the left of centerline. During rollout in a 3 point attitude, I encountered and collided with another antique MTR (#2), who was still on the runway with the nose of his aircraft in a northerly direction blocking the right side of the runway. Apparently he cut short his rollout and lingered on the runway while attempting to exit the runway with approximately 2000 ft of runway left to the west end of 27 when the collision occurred. In the short response time available, I tried everything to avoid a collision by applying full left brake and rudder to swerve left and hopefully miss the other aircraft blocking my path. Unfortunately, my right wing tip struck his right tail. To avoid further catastrophe, we both quickly exited runway 27 to clear the area for the oncoming traffic behind us. No injuries occurred. Contributing factors would, in my opinion, be the fact that when numerous aircraft are landing following a formation break, it is standard operating procedure to (land long) to allow space on the approach end for the aircraft behind. It is also therefore standard operating procedure to then land, rollout, and taxi to the end of the runway before exiting. To prevent: following formation landing, taxi to the end of the runway. Supplemental information from acn 217758. I flew the warbird formation fly-by at oshkosh. After landing and clearing the runway, I was struck on the right horizontal stabilizer and rudder by the right wing of the aircraft landing behind me.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: 2 ANTIQUE MIL PISTON TRAINERS OF WWII AND KOREAN VINTAGE HAD A MINOR COLLISION WHILE DEPARTING THE RWY AFTER A WARBIRD FORMATION FLYBY.
Narrative: AFTER FLYING THE SAT AIR SHOW ROUTINE, WE WERE RECOVERING THE FLTS ON RWY 27 IN RELATIVELY STRONG WIND GUSTS AND L XWINDS. FOLLOWING STANDARD FORMATION LNDG PROC, I REMAINED ON THE R SIDE OF RWY 27 IN THE MANDATORY STAGGERED POS SPACED BEHIND #3 ON THE L OF CTRLINE. DURING ROLLOUT IN A 3 POINT ATTITUDE, I ENCOUNTERED AND COLLIDED WITH ANOTHER ANTIQUE MTR (#2), WHO WAS STILL ON THE RWY WITH THE NOSE OF HIS ACFT IN A NORTHERLY DIRECTION BLOCKING THE R SIDE OF THE RWY. APPARENTLY HE CUT SHORT HIS ROLLOUT AND LINGERED ON THE RWY WHILE ATTEMPTING TO EXIT THE RWY WITH APPROX 2000 FT OF RWY LEFT TO THE W END OF 27 WHEN THE COLLISION OCCURRED. IN THE SHORT RESPONSE TIME AVAILABLE, I TRIED EVERYTHING TO AVOID A COLLISION BY APPLYING FULL L BRAKE AND RUDDER TO SWERVE L AND HOPEFULLY MISS THE OTHER ACFT BLOCKING MY PATH. UNFORTUNATELY, MY R WING TIP STRUCK HIS R TAIL. TO AVOID FURTHER CATASTROPHE, WE BOTH QUICKLY EXITED RWY 27 TO CLR THE AREA FOR THE ONCOMING TFC BEHIND US. NO INJURIES OCCURRED. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS WOULD, IN MY OPINION, BE THE FACT THAT WHEN NUMEROUS ACFT ARE LNDG FOLLOWING A FORMATION BREAK, IT IS STANDARD OPERATING PROC TO (LAND LONG) TO ALLOW SPACE ON THE APCH END FOR THE ACFT BEHIND. IT IS ALSO THEREFORE STANDARD OPERATING PROC TO THEN LAND, ROLLOUT, AND TAXI TO THE END OF THE RWY BEFORE EXITING. TO PREVENT: FOLLOWING FORMATION LNDG, TAXI TO THE END OF THE RWY. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 217758. I FLEW THE WARBIRD FORMATION FLY-BY AT OSHKOSH. AFTER LNDG AND CLRING THE RWY, I WAS STRUCK ON THE R HORIZ STABILIZER AND RUDDER BY THE R WING OF THE ACFT LNDG BEHIND ME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.