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Attributes | |
ACN | 218336 |
Time | |
Date | 199208 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sea |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 100 agl bound upper : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sea |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 218336 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Airport | other physical facility procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
We were on the GS at 2500 ft and 7 DME of the 34R ILS, cleared for the visual approach when the TCASII RA sounded and commanded a 2000 FPM rate of descent. The target turned to red with a down arrow and a +4, indicating that it was descending 400 ft directly above us. I started an abrupt 2000 FPM rate of descent which lasted for about 20 seconds. When the advisory ended we leveled off at about 1800 ft. I then saw an large transport passing us off our left wing. He must have been going about 175 KTS on his final approach as we were very heavy, 560000 pounds, our approach speed was 155 and we had picked up about 10 KTS of extra airspeed on our 'emergency descent.' later, I was advised from a witness on the ground that the large transport had intercepted from the west and had looked as if he was going to fly right into us. He had obviously not figured his high speed with his intercept angle and had considerably overflown final into our parallel course (which at seatac is only 700 ft between runways). We intercepted the GS about 4 1/2 mi out. The large transport was about 100 yards ahead of us when we noticed that he was just putting his gear down and slowing. Now we were in a near go around situation as a heavy cannot pass a lighter aircraft on a parallel visual. Our wake turbulence would have endangered his final approach and flair. Fortunately, he never slowed below 155 KTS (which seems a little fast for an large transport) as he touched down as we were still 100 ft in the air. At the same time the tower told us to go around.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN LGT AND A WDB HAD AN NMAC IN THE LNDG PATTERN AT SEA ON PARALLEL APCHS TO RWYS 34 WHICH ARE ONLY 700 FT APART!
Narrative: WE WERE ON THE GS AT 2500 FT AND 7 DME OF THE 34R ILS, CLRED FOR THE VISUAL APCH WHEN THE TCASII RA SOUNDED AND COMMANDED A 2000 FPM RATE OF DSCNT. THE TARGET TURNED TO RED WITH A DOWN ARROW AND A +4, INDICATING THAT IT WAS DSNDING 400 FT DIRECTLY ABOVE US. I STARTED AN ABRUPT 2000 FPM RATE OF DSCNT WHICH LASTED FOR ABOUT 20 SECONDS. WHEN THE ADVISORY ENDED WE LEVELED OFF AT ABOUT 1800 FT. I THEN SAW AN LGT PASSING US OFF OUR L WING. HE MUST HAVE BEEN GOING ABOUT 175 KTS ON HIS FINAL APCH AS WE WERE VERY HVY, 560000 POUNDS, OUR APCH SPD WAS 155 AND WE HAD PICKED UP ABOUT 10 KTS OF EXTRA AIRSPD ON OUR 'EMER DSCNT.' LATER, I WAS ADVISED FROM A WITNESS ON THE GND THAT THE LGT HAD INTERCEPTED FROM THE W AND HAD LOOKED AS IF HE WAS GOING TO FLY RIGHT INTO US. HE HAD OBVIOUSLY NOT FIGURED HIS HIGH SPD WITH HIS INTERCEPT ANGLE AND HAD CONSIDERABLY OVERFLOWN FINAL INTO OUR PARALLEL COURSE (WHICH AT SEATAC IS ONLY 700 FT BTWN RWYS). WE INTERCEPTED THE GS ABOUT 4 1/2 MI OUT. THE LGT WAS ABOUT 100 YARDS AHEAD OF US WHEN WE NOTICED THAT HE WAS JUST PUTTING HIS GEAR DOWN AND SLOWING. NOW WE WERE IN A NEAR GAR SITUATION AS A HVY CANNOT PASS A LIGHTER ACFT ON A PARALLEL VISUAL. OUR WAKE TURB WOULD HAVE ENDANGERED HIS FINAL APCH AND FLAIR. FORTUNATELY, HE NEVER SLOWED BELOW 155 KTS (WHICH SEEMS A LITTLE FAST FOR AN LGT) AS HE TOUCHED DOWN AS WE WERE STILL 100 FT IN THE AIR. AT THE SAME TIME THE TWR TOLD US TO GAR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.