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Attributes | |
ACN | 218886 |
Time | |
Date | 199208 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ewr |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 2800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 tower : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 218886 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 218711 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After takeoff from runway 22R at newark, nj, airport and upon checking in with departure control, departure said to check transponder. At this time we realized that we had not set the prescribed transponder code and also had not crosschecked the pre departure clearance for departure and route information. The newark 4 departure which was filed by the company has a detailed procedure when departing on 22R and has an altitude restriction of 5000 ft. The pre departure clearance had modified the altitude to 2500 ft. We had missed this and had set 5000 in the altitude window. At 2800 ft departure said to maintain 2500 and we returned to 2500 ft. I believe the detailed departure briefing that we discussed as a crew on the before start checklist made it seem as if we had discussed the departure clearance that was a part of the pre departure clearance. Also, many airports do not have pre departure clearance's so it is not an acquired habit to check for a pre departure clearance. I believe that in the interest of safety that the 22R departure altitude should be 2500 ft since that in normally given on the pre departure clearance. Supplemental information from acn 218711. The ewr 4 SID altitude is almost always amended from 5000 ft to 2500 ft, an unusual occurrence at most airports. Perhaps the SID should be changed also, a more strict adherence to the appropriate checklists should prevent this from happening again.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MISSED ALT CHANGE ON PDC.
Narrative: AFTER TKOF FROM RWY 22R AT NEWARK, NJ, ARPT AND UPON CHKING IN WITH DEP CTL, DEP SAID TO CHK TRANSPONDER. AT THIS TIME WE REALIZED THAT WE HAD NOT SET THE PRESCRIBED TRANSPONDER CODE AND ALSO HAD NOT XCHKED THE PDC FOR DEP AND RTE INFO. THE NEWARK 4 DEP WHICH WAS FILED BY THE COMPANY HAS A DETAILED PROC WHEN DEPARTING ON 22R AND HAS AN ALT RESTRICTION OF 5000 FT. THE PDC HAD MODIFIED THE ALT TO 2500 FT. WE HAD MISSED THIS AND HAD SET 5000 IN THE ALT WINDOW. AT 2800 FT DEP SAID TO MAINTAIN 2500 AND WE RETURNED TO 2500 FT. I BELIEVE THE DETAILED DEP BRIEFING THAT WE DISCUSSED AS A CREW ON THE BEFORE START CHKLIST MADE IT SEEM AS IF WE HAD DISCUSSED THE DEP CLRNC THAT WAS A PART OF THE PDC. ALSO, MANY ARPTS DO NOT HAVE PDC'S SO IT IS NOT AN ACQUIRED HABIT TO CHK FOR A PDC. I BELIEVE THAT IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY THAT THE 22R DEP ALT SHOULD BE 2500 FT SINCE THAT IN NORMALLY GIVEN ON THE PDC. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 218711. THE EWR 4 SID ALT IS ALMOST ALWAYS AMENDED FROM 5000 FT TO 2500 FT, AN UNUSUAL OCCURRENCE AT MOST ARPTS. PERHAPS THE SID SHOULD BE CHANGED ALSO, A MORE STRICT ADHERENCE TO THE APPROPRIATE CHKLISTS SHOULD PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.