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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 219551 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199208 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : abq |
| State Reference | NM |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 12000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : abq |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 100 |
| ASRS Report | 219551 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Had been listening to other aircraft radio traffic. We had been called as traffic for a 'pacer' aircraft, and he was then announced to us as traffic. Based on past call sign usage, I was looking for an light transport, but this time it really was an small aircraft. I'm getting tired of this. Military is using 'pacer' and 'swift' as call signs -- these are aircraft types and by aim information, are to be used by those types for descriptive purposes. As ex-military, I know how much fun it is to use shit-hot call signs, but tell them to knock it off before somebody gets hurt. A lot of difference in speed, small aircraft or light transport!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MIL USING ACTUAL ACFT MODEL NAMES AS CALL SIGNS.
Narrative: HAD BEEN LISTENING TO OTHER ACFT RADIO TFC. WE HAD BEEN CALLED AS TFC FOR A 'PACER' ACFT, AND HE WAS THEN ANNOUNCED TO US AS TFC. BASED ON PAST CALL SIGN USAGE, I WAS LOOKING FOR AN LTT, BUT THIS TIME IT REALLY WAS AN SMA. I'M GETTING TIRED OF THIS. MIL IS USING 'PACER' AND 'SWIFT' AS CALL SIGNS -- THESE ARE ACFT TYPES AND BY AIM INFO, ARE TO BE USED BY THOSE TYPES FOR DESCRIPTIVE PURPOSES. AS EX-MIL, I KNOW HOW MUCH FUN IT IS TO USE SHIT-HOT CALL SIGNS, BUT TELL THEM TO KNOCK IT OFF BEFORE SOMEBODY GETS HURT. A LOT OF DIFFERENCE IN SPD, SMA OR LTT!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.