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Attributes | |
ACN | 220931 |
Time | |
Date | 199209 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pwa |
State Reference | OK |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2700 msl bound upper : 2700 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pwa |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Route In Use | approach : straight in arrival other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
ASRS Report | 220931 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
Publication | Unspecified |
Narrative:
A former instrument student that has been flying the wiley post VOR runway 35R is very concerned because controllers are not calling the FAF (dickh) for him. According to the commercial chart (copy enclosed) it is not legal to identify the FAF with DME. If you will refer to the government chart, you will see that it allows DME identify of the FAF. I think the commercial chart is in error. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: analyst called commercial chart maker and learned that their chart was in error and that a revision will be made in the jan/93 publication. As the reporter states, the government chart is correct. No further action is planned at this time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A FLT INSTRUCTOR RPTS THAT THE COMMERCIAL PLATE FOR VOR RWY 35R IS IN ERROR IN THAT IT DOES NOT SHOW THAT DME IS ALLOWED FOR 'DICKH' INTXN. THE GOV PLATES ALLOW THIS.
Narrative: A FORMER INST STUDENT THAT HAS BEEN FLYING THE WILEY POST VOR RWY 35R IS VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE CTLRS ARE NOT CALLING THE FAF (DICKH) FOR HIM. ACCORDING TO THE COMMERCIAL CHART (COPY ENCLOSED) IT IS NOT LEGAL TO IDENT THE FAF WITH DME. IF YOU WILL REFER TO THE GOV CHART, YOU WILL SEE THAT IT ALLOWS DME IDENT OF THE FAF. I THINK THE COMMERCIAL CHART IS IN ERROR. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: ANALYST CALLED COMMERCIAL CHART MAKER AND LEARNED THAT THEIR CHART WAS IN ERROR AND THAT A REVISION WILL BE MADE IN THE JAN/93 PUBLICATION. AS THE RPTR STATES, THE GOV CHART IS CORRECT. NO FURTHER ACTION IS PLANNED AT THIS TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.