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Flight crew of small transport jet experienced a near midair collision with another aircraft while climbing out from a non tower airport.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 222208 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199209 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : 27g airport : 22g |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2100 msl bound upper : 2500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : cle |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 222208 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was the copilot flying from the left seat. We had just lifted off from 22G (lorain county, oh) and our clearance was left turn to 360 degrees, climb to 3000 ft. The captain of the trip was flying in the right seat and talking on the radios. I was in a left turn to 360 degrees in a 30 degree bank and 5 to 6 degree pitch up. When we contacted departure, they had traffic 12 O'clock, 1 mi, 2100 ft. We were going through 2400 ft. I pitched up a little. The captain said he was under us and going to our right. At that time, we were going through 2500-2600 ft. I don't think there was much we could have done differently. Apparently, this traffic appeared after we received our clearance from approach while we were on the ground at 22G. I think it was a VFR going around the west side of the TCA. From my position. I never saw the traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF SMT JET EXPERIENCED A NMAC WITH ANOTHER ACFT WHILE CLBING OUT FROM A NON TWR ARPT.
Narrative: I WAS THE COPLT FLYING FROM THE L SEAT. WE HAD JUST LIFTED OFF FROM 22G (LORAIN COUNTY, OH) AND OUR CLRNC WAS L TURN TO 360 DEGS, CLB TO 3000 FT. THE CAPT OF THE TRIP WAS FLYING IN THE R SEAT AND TALKING ON THE RADIOS. I WAS IN A L TURN TO 360 DEGS IN A 30 DEG BANK AND 5 TO 6 DEG PITCH UP. WHEN WE CONTACTED DEP, THEY HAD TFC 12 O'CLOCK, 1 MI, 2100 FT. WE WERE GOING THROUGH 2400 FT. I PITCHED UP A LITTLE. THE CAPT SAID HE WAS UNDER US AND GOING TO OUR R. AT THAT TIME, WE WERE GOING THROUGH 2500-2600 FT. I DON'T THINK THERE WAS MUCH WE COULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY. APPARENTLY, THIS TFC APPEARED AFTER WE RECEIVED OUR CLRNC FROM APCH WHILE WE WERE ON THE GND AT 22G. I THINK IT WAS A VFR GOING AROUND THE W SIDE OF THE TCA. FROM MY POS. I NEVER SAW THE TFC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.