Medium large transport taxiing around holding traffic onto runway cuts corner too close for their co...

Attributes
ACN	223306
Time
Date	199209
Day	Fri
Place
Locale Reference	airport : dca
State Reference	DC
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	IMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Flight Phase	ground : holding
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 400
ASRS Report	223306
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	conflict : ground less severe
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation other

Narrative:

We taxied for takeoff on runway 36. After crossing all intervening runways and taxiways, we pulled into line #4 for takeoff (1 engine running, takeoff confign). All this time tower cleared us for takeoff. The captain taxied on #1 engine while I started #2 engine and completed the checklists. As we approached the runway the captain turned slightly right to be able to use all the runway. At this point the aircraft sitting #1 asked us to stop. We stopped, checked the wings, turned a little left and stopped. Tower had cancelled our takeoff clearance even though we were over the hold line. At this time another airliner landed and we took off. Lesson learned: don't hurry, refuse takeoff clearance, and don't taxi while 1 crewmember can't clear the taxi route.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: MLG TAXIING AROUND HOLDING TFC ONTO RWY CUTS CORNER TOO CLOSE FOR THEIR COMFORT.

Narrative: WE TAXIED FOR TKOF ON RWY 36. AFTER XING ALL INTERVENING RWYS AND TAXIWAYS, WE PULLED INTO LINE #4 FOR TKOF (1 ENG RUNNING, TKOF CONFIGN). ALL THIS TIME TWR CLRED US FOR TKOF. THE CAPT TAXIED ON #1 ENG WHILE I STARTED #2 ENG AND COMPLETED THE CHKLISTS. AS WE APCHED THE RWY THE CAPT TURNED SLIGHTLY R TO BE ABLE TO USE ALL THE RWY. AT THIS POINT THE ACFT SITTING #1 ASKED US TO STOP. WE STOPPED, CHKED THE WINGS, TURNED A LITTLE L AND STOPPED. TWR HAD CANCELLED OUR TKOF CLRNC EVEN THOUGH WE WERE OVER THE HOLD LINE. AT THIS TIME ANOTHER AIRLINER LANDED AND WE TOOK OFF. LESSON LEARNED: DON'T HURRY, REFUSE TKOF CLRNC, AND DON'T TAXI WHILE 1 CREWMEMBER CAN'T CLR THE TAXI RTE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Medium large transport taxiing around holding traffic onto runway cuts corner too close for their comfort.