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Attributes | |
ACN | 224852 |
Time | |
Date | 199210 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sbgr |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 15806 flight time type : 590 |
ASRS Report | 224852 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 195 flight time total : 5200 flight time type : 360 |
ASRS Report | 224757 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated other Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Flight mia gru (air carrier widebody transport flight number tue) 10/92 all aspects normal/or routine until nose gear touchdown. First officer landing. He pushed nose over after main gear skip touchdown. Fuselage damaged across the top. Off station. Oct mia gru NTSB has cockpit recorder and fdr. Left 10 KT crosswind during landing. Fdr says highest 'G' spike 1.376's should airframe fail? Captain me, helpless at that point of landing. First officer's landing at that point nothing I could do to stop firm nose ground touchdown. First officer had 390 hours that's about 20 lndgs do long range segments. This disproves old adage a good approach makes a good landing. Supplemental information from acn 224757. After main gear touchdown, lowered nose of aircraft. Felt nose gear contact with runway and applied forward pressure to yoke because of crosswind condition on landing. Nose abruptly fell and heard loud bang. Dropped 2 sets of oxygen masks and 1 video camera from ceiling. Aft entry door EICAS message was also displayed on EICAS screen. Taxi in normal. On long taxi noticed wind shifting from direct crosswind from left to direct tailwind.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FO OF ACR WDB ACFT MADE HARD LNDG CAUSING ACFT DAMAGE.
Narrative: FLT MIA GRU (ACR WDB FLT NUMBER TUE) 10/92 ALL ASPECTS NORMAL/OR ROUTINE UNTIL NOSE GEAR TOUCHDOWN. FO LNDG. HE PUSHED NOSE OVER AFTER MAIN GEAR SKIP TOUCHDOWN. FUSELAGE DAMAGED ACROSS THE TOP. OFF STATION. OCT MIA GRU NTSB HAS COCKPIT RECORDER AND FDR. L 10 KT XWIND DURING LNDG. FDR SAYS HIGHEST 'G' SPIKE 1.376'S SHOULD AIRFRAME FAIL? CAPT ME, HELPLESS AT THAT POINT OF LNDG. FO'S LNDG AT THAT POINT NOTHING I COULD DO TO STOP FIRM NOSE GND TOUCHDOWN. FO HAD 390 HRS THAT'S ABOUT 20 LNDGS DO LONG RANGE SEGMENTS. THIS DISPROVES OLD ADAGE A GOOD APCH MAKES A GOOD LNDG. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 224757. AFTER MAIN GEAR TOUCHDOWN, LOWERED NOSE OF ACFT. FELT NOSE GEAR CONTACT WITH RWY AND APPLIED FORWARD PRESSURE TO YOKE BECAUSE OF XWIND CONDITION ON LNDG. NOSE ABRUPTLY FELL AND HEARD LOUD BANG. DROPPED 2 SETS OF OXYGEN MASKS AND 1 VIDEO CAMERA FROM CEILING. AFT ENTRY DOOR EICAS MESSAGE WAS ALSO DISPLAYED ON EICAS SCREEN. TAXI IN NORMAL. ON LONG TAXI NOTICED WIND SHIFTING FROM DIRECT XWIND FROM L TO DIRECT TAILWIND.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.