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An large transport air carrier crew exercised its emergency authority to fly around a thunderstorm in a congested airspace.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 225523 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199210 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : rbv airport : jfk |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny tower : oak |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other other |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors enroute airway : zny |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 7900 flight time type : 1200 |
| ASRS Report | 225523 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 218 flight time total : 5700 flight time type : 1750 |
| ASRS Report | 223542 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : exited adverse environment flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Weather |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Being vectored by ny ATC south of rbv, asked for left turn around thunderstorm. Was denied because of traffic. Requested 2 more times. Was again denied. I told ATC I was turning right to 180 degrees to avoid WX. Once clear, I told ATC they could turn us as they wished. On approach, ATC told us to call the center on the ground. I did as requested. The supervisor I spoke to said, I screwed up their traffic and would have preferred us to fly through the thunderstorm than hit another aircraft. I told them we cannot fly through thunderstorms and safety of the aircraft and passenger was my #1 concern. ATC does not have WX radar. This must be a problem for them vectoring aircraft through WX. Filed report with company and dispatch.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN LGT ACR CREW EXERCISED ITS EMER AUTHORITY TO FLY AROUND A TSTM IN A CONGESTED AIRSPACE.
Narrative: BEING VECTORED BY NY ATC S OF RBV, ASKED FOR L TURN AROUND TSTM. WAS DENIED BECAUSE OF TFC. REQUESTED 2 MORE TIMES. WAS AGAIN DENIED. I TOLD ATC I WAS TURNING R TO 180 DEGS TO AVOID WX. ONCE CLR, I TOLD ATC THEY COULD TURN US AS THEY WISHED. ON APCH, ATC TOLD US TO CALL THE CTR ON THE GND. I DID AS REQUESTED. THE SUPVR I SPOKE TO SAID, I SCREWED UP THEIR TFC AND WOULD HAVE PREFERRED US TO FLY THROUGH THE TSTM THAN HIT ANOTHER ACFT. I TOLD THEM WE CANNOT FLY THROUGH TSTMS AND SAFETY OF THE ACFT AND PAX WAS MY #1 CONCERN. ATC DOES NOT HAVE WX RADAR. THIS MUST BE A PROBLEM FOR THEM VECTORING ACFT THROUGH WX. FILED RPT WITH COMPANY AND DISPATCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.