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Attributes | |
ACN | 226522 |
Time | |
Date | 199211 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sax |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 13000 msl bound upper : 13500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 tower : pdx |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Light Transport |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 226522 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Captain was flying. We were climbing. Departure control had cleared us to 13000 and reported traffic at 2 O'clock, 14500, a commuter. I told him I was looking. (We were very light and climbing very fast. We were going through approximately 12200 when I turned my attention outside looking for the traffic). I did see a plane, but wasn't sure if it was the right one, so I didn't report it in sight yet. ATC reported it again, then I was distracted by a 'traffic' alert from the TCASII and shortly thereafter an 'altitude' alert. I looked and saw our altitude of 13300. I alerted the captain, but he said he was following the 'climb' command from the TCASII, which I had missed. Then, the TCASII issued a 'descend' command when we reached approximately 13500. This was initiated immediately by the captain and we leveled off at our assigned altitude of 13000. I told ATC we had been at 13500 due to a TCASII alert and were now back at 13000. He responded 'roger' and then cleared us to 16000 MSL. After discussion with ATC on the phone, we suspect that the initial climb command might have been due to traffic other than the commuter at 14500 and then the 'descend' command was due to him. At that time (when the 'descend' command was given). I did have positive contact with the commuter and no conflict was evident or reported by ATC.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR RESPONDS TO TCASII RA. RECEIVES OPPOSITE DIRECTION RA.
Narrative: CAPT WAS FLYING. WE WERE CLBING. DEP CTL HAD CLRED US TO 13000 AND RPTED TFC AT 2 O'CLOCK, 14500, A COMMUTER. I TOLD HIM I WAS LOOKING. (WE WERE VERY LIGHT AND CLBING VERY FAST. WE WERE GOING THROUGH APPROX 12200 WHEN I TURNED MY ATTN OUTSIDE LOOKING FOR THE TFC). I DID SEE A PLANE, BUT WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS THE RIGHT ONE, SO I DIDN'T RPT IT IN SIGHT YET. ATC RPTED IT AGAIN, THEN I WAS DISTRACTED BY A 'TFC' ALERT FROM THE TCASII AND SHORTLY THEREAFTER AN 'ALT' ALERT. I LOOKED AND SAW OUR ALT OF 13300. I ALERTED THE CAPT, BUT HE SAID HE WAS FOLLOWING THE 'CLB' COMMAND FROM THE TCASII, WHICH I HAD MISSED. THEN, THE TCASII ISSUED A 'DSND' COMMAND WHEN WE REACHED APPROX 13500. THIS WAS INITIATED IMMEDIATELY BY THE CAPT AND WE LEVELED OFF AT OUR ASSIGNED ALT OF 13000. I TOLD ATC WE HAD BEEN AT 13500 DUE TO A TCASII ALERT AND WERE NOW BACK AT 13000. HE RESPONDED 'ROGER' AND THEN CLRED US TO 16000 MSL. AFTER DISCUSSION WITH ATC ON THE PHONE, WE SUSPECT THAT THE INITIAL CLB COMMAND MIGHT HAVE BEEN DUE TO TFC OTHER THAN THE COMMUTER AT 14500 AND THEN THE 'DSND' COMMAND WAS DUE TO HIM. AT THAT TIME (WHEN THE 'DSND' COMMAND WAS GIVEN). I DID HAVE POSITIVE CONTACT WITH THE COMMUTER AND NO CONFLICT WAS EVIDENT OR RPTED BY ATC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.