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Attributes | |
ACN | 233449 |
Time | |
Date | 199302 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : rst |
State Reference | MN |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 400 agl bound upper : 400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Special VFR |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : rst |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other |
Route In Use | approach : svfr approach : visual |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 1300 flight time type : 1300 |
ASRS Report | 233449 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : far other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Flying with cfii. Flight started as an IFR training flight from stp-rst-ona. In VMC from stp-rst steadily picking up rime ice but unable to descend below clouds (ceiling 2500 ft/MEA 3000 ft). After landing at rst we decided to complete the trip to ona below the clouds, VFR. (WX at rst was 600 ft and 4 mi but ona is down in the valley and had 1500 ft and 10 mi.) we departed rst with a SVFR clearance, but found that before we reached the point where we could descend down into the valley, ceilings lowered to less than 500 ft. The only way we could insure obstacle clearance was to fly directly over the interstate highway. (This is a very sparsely populated area but to maintain VFR we had to be over the traffic on the highway at less than 500 ft.) what contributed to our getting into this situation was, of course, 'get homeitis' combined with my instructor and I both relying on the other's judgement. He has extensive experience flying in IMC. He knew that I had flown extensively at low levels and was very familiar with the area, including tower locations. We made it through, but by a much narrower margin than either of us cared for. Next time, I'll rely on my own judgement a lot more, and anyone else's a lot less.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PROX OF CLOUDS AND GND WHILE SMA PLTS PRACTICE UNAUTH SCUD RUNNING FLT TO DEST ARPT.
Narrative: FLYING WITH CFII. FLT STARTED AS AN IFR TRAINING FLT FROM STP-RST-ONA. IN VMC FROM STP-RST STEADILY PICKING UP RIME ICE BUT UNABLE TO DSND BELOW CLOUDS (CEILING 2500 FT/MEA 3000 FT). AFTER LNDG AT RST WE DECIDED TO COMPLETE THE TRIP TO ONA BELOW THE CLOUDS, VFR. (WX AT RST WAS 600 FT AND 4 MI BUT ONA IS DOWN IN THE VALLEY AND HAD 1500 FT AND 10 MI.) WE DEPARTED RST WITH A SVFR CLRNC, BUT FOUND THAT BEFORE WE REACHED THE POINT WHERE WE COULD DSND DOWN INTO THE VALLEY, CEILINGS LOWERED TO LESS THAN 500 FT. THE ONLY WAY WE COULD INSURE OBSTACLE CLRNC WAS TO FLY DIRECTLY OVER THE INTERSTATE HWY. (THIS IS A VERY SPARSELY POPULATED AREA BUT TO MAINTAIN VFR WE HAD TO BE OVER THE TFC ON THE HWY AT LESS THAN 500 FT.) WHAT CONTRIBUTED TO OUR GETTING INTO THIS SIT WAS, OF COURSE, 'GET HOMEITIS' COMBINED WITH MY INSTRUCTOR AND I BOTH RELYING ON THE OTHER'S JUDGEMENT. HE HAS EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE FLYING IN IMC. HE KNEW THAT I HAD FLOWN EXTENSIVELY AT LOW LEVELS AND WAS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, INCLUDING TWR LOCATIONS. WE MADE IT THROUGH, BUT BY A MUCH NARROWER MARGIN THAN EITHER OF US CARED FOR. NEXT TIME, I'LL RELY ON MY OWN JUDGEMENT A LOT MORE, AND ANYONE ELSE'S A LOT LESS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.