Runway weight limitation exceeded on takeoff.

Attributes
ACN	234348
Time
Date	199302
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : sju
State Reference	PR
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : san
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff ground : preflight ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 27000 flight time type : 9000
ASRS Report	234348
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : second officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 4200 flight time type : 685
ASRS Report	234346
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Takeoff weight was just over maximum (by 400 pounds). We elected to takeoff 400 pounds of bags to be at certificate limit. We were also discussing whether we had enough fuel to go around WX en route and still have enough fuel at destination to be legal (and alternate). We had to use runway 8 (10000 ft long). Due to focusing on weight and fuel related problems, I mixed up runway 8 (10000 ft) and runway 10 (8000 ft). I asked the copilot to request runway 10. The takeoff roll was too close to the end. Review and analysis in cruise revealed our mistake, pretty dumb error. Supplemental information from acn 234346: crew reviewed the takeoff in cruise. We realized we mixed up runway 8 (10000 ft) and runway 10 (8000 ft). Big mistake. Had we had an engine failure anywhere near V1 we would have had an accident. Learned several lessons from this one. Supplemental information from acn 234231: it was a legal takeoff on runway 8 which is 10000 ft long. Captain came back from phone conversation with dispatch, said we're good for 10.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: RWY WT LIMITATION EXCEEDED ON TKOF.

Narrative: TKOF WT WAS JUST OVER MAX (BY 400 LBS). WE ELECTED TO TKOF 400 LBS OF BAGS TO BE AT CERTIFICATE LIMIT. WE WERE ALSO DISCUSSING WHETHER WE HAD ENOUGH FUEL TO GAR WX ENRTE AND STILL HAVE ENOUGH FUEL AT DEST TO BE LEGAL (AND ALTERNATE). WE HAD TO USE RWY 8 (10000 FT LONG). DUE TO FOCUSING ON WT AND FUEL RELATED PROBS, I MIXED UP RWY 8 (10000 FT) AND RWY 10 (8000 FT). I ASKED THE COPLT TO REQUEST RWY 10. THE TKOF ROLL WAS TOO CLOSE TO THE END. REVIEW AND ANALYSIS IN CRUISE REVEALED OUR MISTAKE, PRETTY DUMB ERROR. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 234346: CREW REVIEWED THE TKOF IN CRUISE. WE REALIZED WE MIXED UP RWY 8 (10000 FT) AND RWY 10 (8000 FT). BIG MISTAKE. HAD WE HAD AN ENG FAILURE ANYWHERE NEAR V1 WE WOULD HAVE HAD AN ACCIDENT. LEARNED SEVERAL LESSONS FROM THIS ONE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 234231: IT WAS A LEGAL TKOF ON RWY 8 WHICH IS 10000 FT LONG. CAPT CAME BACK FROM PHONE CONVERSATION WITH DISPATCH, SAID WE'RE GOOD FOR 10.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.