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Attributes | |
ACN | 237560 |
Time | |
Date | 199303 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mcn |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mcn |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 237560 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 7500 vertical : 800 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
We were at 8000 ft. Our flight was air carrier X (aby-atl). Another company flight Y was also on frequency (mcn approach 119.6) at 8000. Flight Y was given heading 270 degrees to join sinca 1 arrival. Our flight X was given heading 330 degrees to 'expect to join sinca 1 arrival.' controller called traffic for us '12 O'clock, 4 mi' and instructed company flight Y to climb immediately to 9000 ft. We saw the other aircraft at 12 O'clock climbing rapidly and our flight did not take evasive action. Both aircraft were at approximately 200 KIAS. Supplemental information from acn 237570: both aircraft were converging at cruise speed, so closure rates caused us to get pretty close before we passed. I picked up the other aircraft as we climbed, he saw us 'pop out of the haze' above him.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: OPERROR CREATES A POTENTIAL CONFLICT BTWN 2 LTTS.
Narrative: WE WERE AT 8000 FT. OUR FLT WAS ACR X (ABY-ATL). ANOTHER COMPANY FLT Y WAS ALSO ON FREQ (MCN APCH 119.6) AT 8000. FLT Y WAS GIVEN HDG 270 DEGS TO JOIN SINCA 1 ARR. OUR FLT X WAS GIVEN HDG 330 DEGS TO 'EXPECT TO JOIN SINCA 1 ARR.' CTLR CALLED TFC FOR US '12 O'CLOCK, 4 MI' AND INSTRUCTED COMPANY FLT Y TO CLB IMMEDIATELY TO 9000 FT. WE SAW THE OTHER ACFT AT 12 O'CLOCK CLBING RAPIDLY AND OUR FLT DID NOT TAKE EVASIVE ACTION. BOTH ACFT WERE AT APPROX 200 KIAS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 237570: BOTH ACFT WERE CONVERGING AT CRUISE SPD, SO CLOSURE RATES CAUSED US TO GET PRETTY CLOSE BEFORE WE PASSED. I PICKED UP THE OTHER ACFT AS WE CLBED, HE SAW US 'POP OUT OF THE HAZE' ABOVE HIM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.