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Attributes | |
ACN | 237583 |
Time | |
Date | 199303 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : phx |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 800 agl bound upper : 800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : phx |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach other |
Route In Use | approach : visual enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : straight in approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 125 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 5500 |
ASRS Report | 237583 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 237557 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Phx was operating visual approachs to 26L and 26R. Apparently it is normal procedure at phx to sequence heavy and non heavy aircraft simultaneously to parallel runways. Captain was PF. Phx approach advised traffic, a widebody transport, while we were on base leg. We reported traffic and airport in sight. We were then cleared visual approach to runway 26R. At approximately 900 AGL captain looked inside to confirm gear and flaps. While looking down, TCASII issued RA with 'descend, descend.' captain looked at his vsi and saw target aircraft merged with his aircraft and minus 100 ft. Captain added maximum power and climbed at 20 degrees nose up. This action caused the RA to cease. We were then clear of traffic. During go around while responding to RA, the widebody transport looked extremely close. We were unsure whether the RA was for the widebody transport or another unseen aircraft. During the go around, the controller in the tower (who was also the tower supervisor) made several comments indicating he was not happy that we went around. Subsequent approach and landing were uneventful. In a telephone conversation between the captain and the controller/supervisor after the flight, the controller/supervisor refused to give his name. Nevertheless, he was apologetic and regretted his remarks during the go around. The controller also indicated that RA's are common in phx. I believe it. This visual procedure needs further consideration and evaluation. There is no room for error as presently practiced.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC DURING VISUAL APCH. MULTIPLE RWY OP PARALLEL RWYS.
Narrative: PHX WAS OPERATING VISUAL APCHS TO 26L AND 26R. APPARENTLY IT IS NORMAL PROC AT PHX TO SEQUENCE HVY AND NON HVY ACFT SIMULTANEOUSLY TO PARALLEL RWYS. CAPT WAS PF. PHX APCH ADVISED TFC, A WDB, WHILE WE WERE ON BASE LEG. WE RPTED TFC AND ARPT IN SIGHT. WE WERE THEN CLRED VISUAL APCH TO RWY 26R. AT APPROX 900 AGL CAPT LOOKED INSIDE TO CONFIRM GEAR AND FLAPS. WHILE LOOKING DOWN, TCASII ISSUED RA WITH 'DSND, DSND.' CAPT LOOKED AT HIS VSI AND SAW TARGET ACFT MERGED WITH HIS ACFT AND MINUS 100 FT. CAPT ADDED MAX PWR AND CLBED AT 20 DEGS NOSE UP. THIS ACTION CAUSED THE RA TO CEASE. WE WERE THEN CLR OF TFC. DURING GAR WHILE RESPONDING TO RA, THE WDB LOOKED EXTREMELY CLOSE. WE WERE UNSURE WHETHER THE RA WAS FOR THE WDB OR ANOTHER UNSEEN ACFT. DURING THE GAR, THE CTLR IN THE TWR (WHO WAS ALSO THE TWR SUPVR) MADE SEVERAL COMMENTS INDICATING HE WAS NOT HAPPY THAT WE WENT AROUND. SUBSEQUENT APCH AND LNDG WERE UNEVENTFUL. IN A TELEPHONE CONVERSATION BTWN THE CAPT AND THE CTLR/SUPVR AFTER THE FLT, THE CTLR/SUPVR REFUSED TO GIVE HIS NAME. NEVERTHELESS, HE WAS APOLOGETIC AND REGRETTED HIS REMARKS DURING THE GAR. THE CTLR ALSO INDICATED THAT RA'S ARE COMMON IN PHX. I BELIEVE IT. THIS VISUAL PROC NEEDS FURTHER CONSIDERATION AND EVALUATION. THERE IS NO ROOM FOR ERROR AS PRESENTLY PRACTICED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.