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Flying pilot of medium large transport forgets speed restr, slows on localizer intercept. Second aircraft vectored off localizer.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 240716 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199305 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : msp |
| State Reference | MN |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2800 msl bound upper : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : msp artcc : lirr |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 2700 |
| ASRS Report | 240716 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were vectored for ILS 11R approach. Approach cleared us for the approach, maintain 4000 ft until wayza, and maintain 150 KTS to kinns. We intercepted the localizer 1-2 mi outside wayza. The captain maintained 4000 ft until intercepting the GS. At that point he started configuring for the approach including slowing to approach speed of approximately 130 KTS. I did not notice as I was running the before landing checklist. As I finished the checklist, approach asked our speed. I said we were at approach speed. She asked us to pick it back up and said 'I thought I told you to maintain 150 KTS to kinns, if you don't pick it up I'll have to take you out of the line and back around.' we were 1-2 mi from kinns at this point and I noticed an aircraft 1500 ft above and 2-3 mi behind on TCASII and closing. Inside kinns I noticed the aircraft behind us was being vectored away from the localizer and in a climb. As we were already on tower frequency I assume approach pulled that aircraft out of line due to lack of separation from us due to our premature slow to approach speed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLYING PLT OF MLG FORGETS SPD RESTR, SLOWS ON LOC INTERCEPT. SECOND ACFT VECTORED OFF LOC.
Narrative: WE WERE VECTORED FOR ILS 11R APCH. APCH CLRED US FOR THE APCH, MAINTAIN 4000 FT UNTIL WAYZA, AND MAINTAIN 150 KTS TO KINNS. WE INTERCEPTED THE LOC 1-2 MI OUTSIDE WAYZA. THE CAPT MAINTAINED 4000 FT UNTIL INTERCEPTING THE GS. AT THAT POINT HE STARTED CONFIGURING FOR THE APCH INCLUDING SLOWING TO APCH SPD OF APPROX 130 KTS. I DID NOT NOTICE AS I WAS RUNNING THE BEFORE LNDG CHKLIST. AS I FINISHED THE CHKLIST, APCH ASKED OUR SPD. I SAID WE WERE AT APCH SPD. SHE ASKED US TO PICK IT BACK UP AND SAID 'I THOUGHT I TOLD YOU TO MAINTAIN 150 KTS TO KINNS, IF YOU DON'T PICK IT UP I'LL HAVE TO TAKE YOU OUT OF THE LINE AND BACK AROUND.' WE WERE 1-2 MI FROM KINNS AT THIS POINT AND I NOTICED AN ACFT 1500 FT ABOVE AND 2-3 MI BEHIND ON TCASII AND CLOSING. INSIDE KINNS I NOTICED THE ACFT BEHIND US WAS BEING VECTORED AWAY FROM THE LOC AND IN A CLB. AS WE WERE ALREADY ON TWR FREQ I ASSUME APCH PULLED THAT ACFT OUT OF LINE DUE TO LACK OF SEPARATION FROM US DUE TO OUR PREMATURE SLOW TO APCH SPD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.