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Attributes | |
ACN | 243141 |
Time | |
Date | 199305 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : geg |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5500 msl bound upper : 6500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : geg |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | approach : visual enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 1600 |
ASRS Report | 243141 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While on vectors to a visual (approximately 8 mi east of VOR, westerly heading) for a landing on runway 7, we were cleared to 4000 ft. Approach was talking with an small aircraft on another frequency so we couldn't hear his replies. Approach then reclred us to 5500 ft and pointed out traffic at 12-1 O'clock, 10 mi. I continued to tell the first officer his direction and distance off of our TCASII display while continuing to look outside myself. The approach controller reconfirmed altimeter settings and that the other aircraft was level at 4000 ft. We then received a TA and when descending through 6000 ft, we got an RA 'climb.' I took the appropriate TCASII avoidance measures to around 6500 ft and then proceeded with original clearance to 5500 ft. I feel in terminal areas it would have been beneficial to be on same frequency with other aircraft to receive their information (flight level -- whether we were in his sight, etc) along with the controller's commands.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NON ADHERENCE TO ATC CLRNC INSTRUCTION AFTER TCASII RA RECEIVED BY FLC IN ALTDEV ALT EXCURSION.
Narrative: WHILE ON VECTORS TO A VISUAL (APPROX 8 MI E OF VOR, WESTERLY HDG) FOR A LNDG ON RWY 7, WE WERE CLRED TO 4000 FT. APCH WAS TALKING WITH AN SMA ON ANOTHER FREQ SO WE COULDN'T HEAR HIS REPLIES. APCH THEN RECLRED US TO 5500 FT AND POINTED OUT TFC AT 12-1 O'CLOCK, 10 MI. I CONTINUED TO TELL THE FO HIS DIRECTION AND DISTANCE OFF OF OUR TCASII DISPLAY WHILE CONTINUING TO LOOK OUTSIDE MYSELF. THE APCH CTLR RECONFIRMED ALTIMETER SETTINGS AND THAT THE OTHER ACFT WAS LEVEL AT 4000 FT. WE THEN RECEIVED A TA AND WHEN DSNDING THROUGH 6000 FT, WE GOT AN RA 'CLB.' I TOOK THE APPROPRIATE TCASII AVOIDANCE MEASURES TO AROUND 6500 FT AND THEN PROCEEDED WITH ORIGINAL CLRNC TO 5500 FT. I FEEL IN TERMINAL AREAS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BENEFICIAL TO BE ON SAME FREQ WITH OTHER ACFT TO RECEIVE THEIR INFO (FLT LEVEL -- WHETHER WE WERE IN HIS SIGHT, ETC) ALONG WITH THE CTLR'S COMMANDS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.