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Attributes | |
ACN | 243903 |
Time | |
Date | 199306 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 12400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : lax |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 950 |
ASRS Report | 243903 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 400 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Possible TCASII save. On civet STAR to lax, told to level at 12000 ft due VFR traffic (opposite direction) at 11500 ft. Could not see any traffic due low sun in eyes and haze. Received and observed 'traffic' on TCASII coming directly toward us at minus 400 ft. Then received an RA to 'climb, climb now.' we complied and climbed to approximately 12400 ft. TCASII showed other traffic was climbing and when we were at 12400 ft the traffic passed off our right wing minus 300 ft below. Thanks TCASII. There is a much broader issue here as to why a VFR aircraft would or should be allowed to fly directly opposite a very heavy approach corridor to lax.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC. EVASIVE ACTION CLB. ALTDEV ALT EXCURSION.
Narrative: POSSIBLE TCASII SAVE. ON CIVET STAR TO LAX, TOLD TO LEVEL AT 12000 FT DUE VFR TFC (OPPOSITE DIRECTION) AT 11500 FT. COULD NOT SEE ANY TFC DUE LOW SUN IN EYES AND HAZE. RECEIVED AND OBSERVED 'TFC' ON TCASII COMING DIRECTLY TOWARD US AT MINUS 400 FT. THEN RECEIVED AN RA TO 'CLB, CLB NOW.' WE COMPLIED AND CLBED TO APPROX 12400 FT. TCASII SHOWED OTHER TFC WAS CLBING AND WHEN WE WERE AT 12400 FT THE TFC PASSED OFF OUR R WING MINUS 300 FT BELOW. THANKS TCASII. THERE IS A MUCH BROADER ISSUE HERE AS TO WHY A VFR ACFT WOULD OR SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO FLY DIRECTLY OPPOSITE A VERY HVY APCH CORRIDOR TO LAX.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.