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Attributes | |
ACN | 244982 |
Time | |
Date | 199306 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lnn |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 8000 |
ASRS Report | 244982 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : assigned or threatened penalties |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
While flying at FL390 I was talking to my copilot. I asked him when he last flew the mdt. He told me 1 1/2 yrs ago. I then asked about his currency to be legal copilot. He said if he got caught he would pencil in time in logbook. I was told by the owner he was current and legal. When we landed at cyyl, I further investigated his currency and found out that he may not even have a legal medical. I then decided to not fly with this individual and picked up a commercial airline back to mem. I restate to the fact that I was unaware of the fact that this man was not current in the aircraft or may not have current medical until we were airborne. I also think that this man has not had a BFR since 1989. I also contacted owner with my concerns. Owner said don't worry about it. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that he did notify the FAA which resulted in the aircraft being 'ramp' inspected and the pilot in question cited for a criminal action of falsification of his airman's medical certificate and not meeting recency pilot experience and test requirements. He believes that all capts should check to assure that their coplts (first officer) meet appropriate requirements prior to flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FO OF AN MDT JET DID NOT MEET CURRENCY REQUIREMENTS OR HAVE A CURRENT MEDICAL CERTIFICATE.
Narrative: WHILE FLYING AT FL390 I WAS TALKING TO MY COPLT. I ASKED HIM WHEN HE LAST FLEW THE MDT. HE TOLD ME 1 1/2 YRS AGO. I THEN ASKED ABOUT HIS CURRENCY TO BE LEGAL COPLT. HE SAID IF HE GOT CAUGHT HE WOULD PENCIL IN TIME IN LOGBOOK. I WAS TOLD BY THE OWNER HE WAS CURRENT AND LEGAL. WHEN WE LANDED AT CYYL, I FURTHER INVESTIGATED HIS CURRENCY AND FOUND OUT THAT HE MAY NOT EVEN HAVE A LEGAL MEDICAL. I THEN DECIDED TO NOT FLY WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL AND PICKED UP A COMMERCIAL AIRLINE BACK TO MEM. I RESTATE TO THE FACT THAT I WAS UNAWARE OF THE FACT THAT THIS MAN WAS NOT CURRENT IN THE ACFT OR MAY NOT HAVE CURRENT MEDICAL UNTIL WE WERE AIRBORNE. I ALSO THINK THAT THIS MAN HAS NOT HAD A BFR SINCE 1989. I ALSO CONTACTED OWNER WITH MY CONCERNS. OWNER SAID DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT HE DID NOTIFY THE FAA WHICH RESULTED IN THE ACFT BEING 'RAMP' INSPECTED AND THE PLT IN QUESTION CITED FOR A CRIMINAL ACTION OF FALSIFICATION OF HIS AIRMAN'S MEDICAL CERTIFICATE AND NOT MEETING RECENCY PLT EXPERIENCE AND TEST REQUIREMENTS. HE BELIEVES THAT ALL CAPTS SHOULD CHK TO ASSURE THAT THEIR COPLTS (FO) MEET APPROPRIATE REQUIREMENTS PRIOR TO FLT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.