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Attributes | |
ACN | 245875 |
Time | |
Date | 199307 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : teb |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 4 |
ASRS Report | 245875 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 24000 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Air carrier X refused to descend to 3000 from 4000 due to TA (not RA). His sequence to final, which was an air carrier Y 4 NM in front doing same speed same direction. I feel this is very unsafe.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X TCASII TA REFUSED CLRNC. PLTDEV.
Narrative: ACR X REFUSED TO DSND TO 3000 FROM 4000 DUE TO TA (NOT RA). HIS SEQUENCE TO FINAL, WHICH WAS AN ACR Y 4 NM IN FRONT DOING SAME SPD SAME DIRECTION. I FEEL THIS IS VERY UNSAFE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.