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Attributes | |
ACN | 246696 |
Time | |
Date | 199307 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : cak |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cak tower : roa |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 11 flight time total : 107 flight time type : 107 |
ASRS Report | 246696 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was part of a flight of 2 passing through the cak arsa. Thinking that we were in close distance of each other, the person that I was with called as a plane with company. We got permission to enter and continued toward zzv. After a short while the controller said we were not close enough to be a flight of 2. He then asked me to turn south. I did so, without incident. From then on, he treated us as 2 different aircraft as we continued to zzv.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: 2 SMAS WERE ALLEGEDLY FLYING FORMATION. A TRACON CTLR MOVED THEM APART FOR STANDARD SEPARATION.
Narrative: I WAS PART OF A FLT OF 2 PASSING THROUGH THE CAK ARSA. THINKING THAT WE WERE IN CLOSE DISTANCE OF EACH OTHER, THE PERSON THAT I WAS WITH CALLED AS A PLANE WITH COMPANY. WE GOT PERMISSION TO ENTER AND CONTINUED TOWARD ZZV. AFTER A SHORT WHILE THE CTLR SAID WE WERE NOT CLOSE ENOUGH TO BE A FLT OF 2. HE THEN ASKED ME TO TURN S. I DID SO, WITHOUT INCIDENT. FROM THEN ON, HE TREATED US AS 2 DIFFERENT ACFT AS WE CONTINUED TO ZZV.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.