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Attributes | |
ACN | 247311 |
Time | |
Date | 199307 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pwk |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 10 agl bound upper : 15 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : pwk |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 300 |
ASRS Report | 247311 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 550 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared to land runway 16 but hold short 24. I came in on final with 1 of my students (he was flying) on a normal glide path. He flew the plane to the runway (16) and landed flat. We bounced approximately 15 ft above the runway off to the left and then bounced again (approximately 8-10 ft) farther to the left, so to avoid going off the runway and possibly cross the grassy area between the 2 intersecting runways. I initiated a go around with the departing traffic in sight (on runway 24), who had just started rolling. We immediately lifted off well to the right of the runway keeping the other plane in sight. When we flew over the intersecting runway we passed well above and away from the departing traffic. Once we returned for landing and were on the ground, tower advised us to call them (on the phone). I did, and they said I was wrong for not holding short and the situation I created. I explained the situation I was in and how I had the traffic in sight. I feel the tower contributed to the creation of the problem by clearing 1 plane to takeoff and 1 to land, which would only work if each aircraft had no problems. Also, there were no aircraft in sequence for takeoff or landing, so why rush 2 airplanes on the field and put them in a situation where there could be no errors.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR WITH SPI INSTRUCTED TO HOLD SHORT OF INTERSECTING RWY FOR DEPARTING TFC. UNABLE DUE BAD LNDG, MAKES GAR.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED TO LAND RWY 16 BUT HOLD SHORT 24. I CAME IN ON FINAL WITH 1 OF MY STUDENTS (HE WAS FLYING) ON A NORMAL GLIDE PATH. HE FLEW THE PLANE TO THE RWY (16) AND LANDED FLAT. WE BOUNCED APPROX 15 FT ABOVE THE RWY OFF TO THE L AND THEN BOUNCED AGAIN (APPROX 8-10 FT) FARTHER TO THE L, SO TO AVOID GOING OFF THE RWY AND POSSIBLY CROSS THE GRASSY AREA BTWN THE 2 INTERSECTING RWYS. I INITIATED A GAR WITH THE DEPARTING TFC IN SIGHT (ON RWY 24), WHO HAD JUST STARTED ROLLING. WE IMMEDIATELY LIFTED OFF WELL TO THE R OF THE RWY KEEPING THE OTHER PLANE IN SIGHT. WHEN WE FLEW OVER THE INTERSECTING RWY WE PASSED WELL ABOVE AND AWAY FROM THE DEPARTING TFC. ONCE WE RETURNED FOR LNDG AND WERE ON THE GND, TWR ADVISED US TO CALL THEM (ON THE PHONE). I DID, AND THEY SAID I WAS WRONG FOR NOT HOLDING SHORT AND THE SIT I CREATED. I EXPLAINED THE SIT I WAS IN AND HOW I HAD THE TFC IN SIGHT. I FEEL THE TWR CONTRIBUTED TO THE CREATION OF THE PROB BY CLRING 1 PLANE TO TKOF AND 1 TO LAND, WHICH WOULD ONLY WORK IF EACH ACFT HAD NO PROBS. ALSO, THERE WERE NO ACFT IN SEQUENCE FOR TKOF OR LNDG, SO WHY RUSH 2 AIRPLANES ON THE FIELD AND PUT THEM IN A SIT WHERE THERE COULD BE NO ERRORS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.